EPISODE 51: Successful Career Switcher w/ Adam Carolla

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This week, Anne and Heather are joined by the prolific podcaster, comedian, actor, radio personality, television host and NY Times best-selling author, Adam Carolla. In this episode, Anne and Heather ask the question: How did Adam successfully switch career paths from an unknown carpenter to a globally recognized comedian and podcast host? You don't want to miss Adam's insightful answer.

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Straw media, Adam Carolla. I
mean, who doesn't want to listen to

Adam Carola say anything? I've been
a fan of this for so long and

of course I've done his show a
couple of times, but to have them

on better together. So there is
something really amazing about him and of course

he's a phenomenal he just has the
best podcast in the world, really,

until better together came along, but
he had. Is True. Why why

we want you to listen this episode, and what is so amazing is what's

story taught us about his story and
what and what the understanding that when you

embrace the thing that your best at, which, by the way, might

be the oddest thing, the thing
that nobody thinks that could make you a

success, that's the thing to go
after. And he will tell you how

and what. Your hat and we
lave will not believe the thing that your

best at is the answer to your
prayers and your success. You're not going

to believe what he was best at
and how it got him work, got

him. So listen. You gotta
listen. It really is a fantastic story.

We have better dig withsten and today, everybody, welcome to better together

with Anne and heaven, we are
adding another one to our tribe today.

That I am very, very happy
I have, Mr Adam Carol, although,

however, I think you have a
different name that we would like to

introduce you with to the what to
our audience? Who are we having on

today? Heather, Adam, Lakers, credible, Lakers, Carolla, which

I he has, dodgers defy.
We want to know where your middle name

came from, Adam. You know, I wish there's a good story behind

it. I wish my dad was
the equipment manager for the Lakers in the

s or something like that. Oh, the sixty sorry, I was.

I never got a middle name.
Yeah, so I never had one at

birth and I got kind of tired
everyone else having that middle initial or having

a Fulam or the middle name.
And I was at the DMV, I

don't know, probably one thousand nine
hundred and eighty six, one thousand nine

hundred and eighty seven, and I
just found myself filling out the paperwork and

I just stared at the blank space
in the middle or the middle name that

I never had. Always kind of
felt a little unloved. Look my parents

to go a little lazy with this. Yeah, like the bloom was off

the rows. Like you know,
everyone has five middle names now. Yeah,

I had zero, huff, and
so I just was sort of Lakers,

Celtics, the whole thing. Larry
Byrne. I just just look down

it just wrote Lakers know it,
and then I turned it in and it's

been on every official document ever since
it. And did your pants? Did

you tell your parents that you added
a name to your heritage, or or

did you leave them in the dark? Now, I left him in the

door. I treat them like mushrooms. Now. That was back in the

glory days when you could do things
like that at the DMV. I just

walked in there with a baptismal certificate
to get a fake ID that I could

be twenty one. You know,
can you? You could never get away

with that kind of stuff now.
Well, you know, we used to

just lie about our weight, and
now looks and I on a hundred and

five. Yeah, you're overweight on
your drops license. Well, I have

been such a fan of yours for
so long and we want to go back

to a beginning. I'man mean to
be admitted. I've had a bit of

a crush on you since love line. I love the way that you speak

to kids and young adults is and
and I know that that was born somewhat

of where. From whence you come? Going back to not celebrating birthdays or

having middle names, you did come
into Hollywood and we would love to begin

at the beginning of that moment,
if we could. Going to being a

boxing coach. Is that what you
thought that you were going to be for

life? Well, I was.
I was a carpenter for many, many

years out of high school and I
like the trade, you know, I

like knowing a trade, I like, you know, having a skill and

all that kind of stuff. But
I'm by nature kind of a talkative person.

I like to collaborate, I like
to share ideas, and the construction

site was a lonely place for that
because, you know, when you work

in so cal, as I did
in Los Angeles and construction, many of

the people don't even speak English,
I mean and and then many the other

folks, you know, they do
speak some English, but you don't really

feel like talking to him about sketch
or Improv or life or love. So

there I felt such in sight,
but I'm starting to see why. You

were talking about material yeah, I
found myself kind of lonely. So I

thought I'd love to get in front
of people and and I always felt like

sort of teaching and instructing like that. I had some sort of natural capacity

for that and I always boxed.
So I thought, well, maybe there's

this whole new wave of you know
what they call like white collar boxing or

executive box saying, you know where
like you're teaching executives and lawyers and things

like that how to box, and
I thought this might be a fun job,

going from construction first to executives.
Yeah, and I could I could

talk to them and I could hear, you know, how they became successful,

you know, so on and so
forth, that you didn't need it,

pickup truck for it and all that. So I sort of made my

way into teaching boxing. It like
a boxing club, like, like I

was called bodies in motion. I
think they're still a fair I remember that.

Yeah, yeah, and and I
liked it. I was pretty good

at it. I felt like,
Oh, this is something I would do

anyway. Now I'm getting paid,
you know, twenty bucks at class,

but I'm getting paid to do it. And so I was sort of half

in the carpentery world and half and
they boxing coach world. So and they

were. I was listening to the
radio and I was listening to Kay rock

and they were talking about having a
boxing match, kind of a morning stunts

zoo kind of kind of move,
and Michael the maintenance man was going to

fight Jimmy the sports guy, and
I was like who? I've always been

interested in radio and I've always thought
about it, always listened to it,

and maybe I could teach one of
them to box, because they said we

needed instructors and equipment and Blah Blah
Blah, and I was like, Oh,

if I could get in there,
I could see the inside of the

station, maybe the studio, maybe
meet Kevin and bean, you know.

So I was like Oh, and
I called the radio station and I and

you know, I got the answering
machine. I had about as much luck

getting into the radio stations. You
imagine calling a radio station would be right

and I just never got anywhere.
But I kept hearing about them and eventually

I just went down to the radio
station and I just, you know,

got into the building. It was
like a commercial building, and then I

went up to K Rock, which
was on the ninth floor, and I

got out of the Elevator, went
to the k rock sweet and Kay rock

was closed. Kay Rock didn't open
until zero am. You know, they

always do that thing where you win
like your beer couzier, your party package

or took it's for in access and
they, you know, come between nine

am and zero PM business hours.
You know whatever. Because, and let

me just insert here, because I
grew up in La and Kay rock was

that, that was the station,
that was what everybody listen to. It

was, it was, it was
huge. Yeah, and and I grew

up listening to it too, because
I'm from La. So I got there.

Now it's like Hundred Fifteen, seven
thirty in the morning and the doors

are locked to Kay rock and they're
not going to open until nine. So

now I've found myself kind of standing
by the elevator trying to figure out,

like do I go and maybe I'll
come back in a couple hours, or

what do I do? And as
I was sitting there kind of thinking about

it, somebody exited the elevator and
they started walking around the back where you

could get in, and I kind
of followed the person as they're walking to

the back key card door and I
said like, Oh, you going into

Kay rock and in the guys like
yeah, and I didn't want to be

presumptuous and like follow him in.
It's that kind of weird thing, like

you know someone lives yeah, like
you know someone who lives in a security

building and you're trying to ring the
Buzzer and someone else's walking a feel kind

of weird, like going, Oh, hold the door, I'm just going

to slide in, you know.
Yeah. So he said, yeah,

I'm going in or something and I
said, you know, just tell them

there's a boxing coach which out here
and I'll just wait. So thanks,

and he just went in and then
I just sat by the elevator for,

you know, twenty minutes or something. I didn't know what was going on

or who, if anyone, would
come out or what the deal was.

But it's some point Jimmy, the
sports guy who's Jimmy Kimmel now, just

walk down the hall and he just
kind of you know, in between commercial

breaks or something, and he was
like, are you the Boxing Guy Know

Sucky? Yep, I am,
and he said okay, I said you

you want me to teach you out
to box? And he's want, sure,

and I said okay, when you
want to when you want to do

it and he said how about today? And I said, okay, when

can you meet me? And Pasadena
bodies in motion. He's like right,

like I'd be there at noon.
So it's like, all right, I'll

here's the parking structurere like, I'll
just be waiting in the parking lot.

Right, and that was it.
Okay. Well, I mean, obviously

that is a story. That isn't. But that isn't. That is a

let led to your entire career.
You and Jimmy Himil have been rumored to

be the best of friends. That
is that it did that emerge and that

bond happened immediately that you knew this
would become a mentor and vice versa?

Yeah, it was. It was
pretty love at first sight and I knew

I needed to like hitch my wagon
to his team. Wow, and and

did you think that it was going
to be through sports or in your heart

when you were saying that you want
to get in front of people, or

you knew was it? Was it
comedy that you knew? Was it storytelling?

What was it inside you to thought
you had a voice that was going

to be broad, that needed to
be seen and heard? Yeah, I

never needed to be seen, but
I like seeing you, but heard.

Yes, sir, I was always
like, I really don't want to be

seen, but I would like to
be heard. So that's why I was

kind of attracted to radio right and
so I I knew that Jimmy could help

at least teach me about radio or
show me the inside of the studio or

introduce me to Kevin and bean or
he wasn't very high up the totem pole

over there. Jimmy wasn't really in
a position where he could call shots like

he wouldn't. He couldn't say I
know this guy, he's funny, let

him get on the air, let
him do some comedy or something. But

he could kind of suggest things and
help facilitate things. But it was kind

of a balancing act because Kevin and
bean were kind of particular and like a

little Finnicky and you couldn't just kind
of bum rush him and go here's what

we're doing. You had to kind
of help facilitate but also sort of make

it seem like it was their idea. And you know, he just he

just said to me, you know, what do you? What do you

do? Yeah, I said,
well, I just kind of riff and

I speak my mind and I improvise
and I go off the cuff. And

he said, well, that's what
Kevin and bean do, so we don't

need you for that. Yeah,
I should. Okay, and he said

what you have to do if you
want to get on the air, you

have to come up with a character. And I said I don't really do

characters. I just not done enough
sketch and Improv and that kind of stuff

to kind of know the people that
did all the accents and all the dialects

and all the characters. And then
there was kind of me. Yeah,

it was just kind of a personality, but I really would have trouble with

voices or, you know, characters. And he was like, well,

that's the deal. So you come
up with a character or you do get

out of here. Are you don't
get on the air. So what you

do? Oh, he came up
with a character. I mean, I

knows. My version of it is
he said, you're going to call in

Monday. They're probably not going to
love it because I know them, and

it'll probably be one and done because
if they don't love it, it's going

to be hard to get you back
to do this character again, because we've

all been in that position. Like
you go, you want that person to

come back on the show and you're
gonna not feeling it. Yeah, whatever

he said, it'll probably be that. Now when I talked to him more

recently he's like, I wasn't that
negative, but he's like he was managing

my expectation right, just pretty to
the yeah, but then I get this

was the biggest radio show intent you
know, it was a huge radio show,

so that was a big deal.
So yeah, he did want your

expectations to be so high, like
he was saying, dude, I got

you the job, but so,
so, I mean, Drum Roll,

you call in and you are I
do, Mr Bircham, the woodshot feature

is the character and it's good enough, like the first time around, where

it was like kind of interesting and
they got some laughs out of it and

it was kind of fun and you
know, they were kind of probably a

little agnostic on it, but it
was good enough, and so it was

like, you know, then I
would secretly talk to Jimmy. Now you

know, Jimmy wasn't going to tell
them that I was the boxing coach one.

I don't want some part time comedian
boxing coach Guy Thinks he's funny calling

in. So he knew that if
I got saddled with the title of boxing

coach, you would hurt hurt my
chances. So, you know, course

he was reporting back to me like
yeah, they I think they thought it

was pretty good. And you know
he was my advocate, you know.

So it's he'll can call in next
week and they're like yeah, okay,

so what so be it, you
know. And as they called the rollout,

you got to say you got a
second. You tanalyze them enough that

you know the the this school that
your character ought to come back. Do

you remember any of the jokes that
you said? Do you remember how you

laid him out? And you would
probably appreciate this. I approached it.

I fell back on my groundlings training
and my act me Improv training. Yes,

when I was trying to come up
with the character. So I was

like well, you know, I
had ideas like Oh, I'm the gay

florist use movies and stuff like that, but like, I don't know anything

about that business. I can't really
do that. That dialect or that affect

has this and I so my first
thought when I kind of fell back on

my training I was like what do
you know? What do you know?

When I was like, Oh,
I know carpentry. Yeah, that much

I know. And okay, so
I know all the wood working and all

the tools and all the specific information
of working with Wood. And then I

thought, well, what's a character? Really kind of hasn't been done.

You know, I always thought my
wood shop teachers and my shop teachers like

in junior high were really funny because
they're so mean. They were meaning to

roll. They did have a very
interesting way of dealing with kids, like

you better believe it, you're going
to get your hand sliced off. I

don't know. There was always a
danger in one. Yeah, this wood

shop class. No, but I
mean that's something that should be done about

that. And Home Economics. Don't
get me started on education. People should

know how to sell and they should
know how to make a good cutting board.

Come on with me on the cutting
board front. I'm with the AMMENS.

I've set well so that I was
like, all right, well,

you better do something. You kind
of know. Yeah, kind of knew.

I know he thought it was funny
that the shop teachers for so mean

and hated the kids and danger and
everything else, and then I also thought,

well, that's never been done before. So I've never seen an SNL

skid about a shop teacher. No, I like that. And then I

really got deep into my training,
which is like, well, what's the

motivation? Yeah, why? Why
is this shop teacher? WHO's this guy

in his s? He taught it
to Louis past year middle school in Monrovia,

which doesn't exist, the DODEP.
But yeah, I was like,

why is this person calling Kevin and
Brten? It's seven hundred and twenty in

the morning. Yep, right,
what is his motivation? I love that.

He doesn't logic. Yeah, he
doesn't like the music they play.

Yes, you know this guy.
This guy would not listen to that music.

He doesn't like all the Cool K
rock stuff. That's for the kids

in Orange County. Yes, the
what's his thing? So I came up

with this device. Everyone back then
had a clock alarm radio, yes,

and and my kids, my junior
high age kids, would all have it

set to Kay rock. So I
knew at twenty in the morning they're all

listening to Kay rock. Yes,
and I needed to use the radio as

an intercom to speak to my kid's
fantastic God. All Right, make a

rock, now that you mention it. One my thing was I'd always started

by saying I'd injured myself in the
garage over the weekend and I wasn't coming

in and so, but you know, Mr Sapanze, that quimby with the

sweater vest, he's got to be
subbing for me now, listen. And

then I would start telling of like
don't he's going to put on a movie,

he's going to put on blood on
the Pant saw to watch the movie.

Then you put your heads on the
desk. I don't want any put

grab ass, I want any moving
around. Stay away from my drill index.

I don't want to see one drill
bit missing from my index. And

you stay away from my miss mckeita
poster. I don't want you even looking

at that thing. And I would
just get into all this. Here's what

you can I would just yell at
the kids through the radio. Oh my

God, but I always had like
like the shop teachers. I always had

the one special kid that I liked. You know, there's always the teachers

pat in there. You could do
no wrong and you know, and then

I would get in first. Guess
you that was I was that you,

yes, that was anyways, it
wasn't. I had a kid named Brad

Higgins staller, who was my special
kid, and he was the only one

allowed to work with tools while I
was gone. Right you know, he's

the only one I trust it.
And then I would get into this whole

thing about you know, Brad,
listen, I know you're building that cigar

box for grandfather. I was thinking
about it. You know, over the

weekend we're talking about doing a dovetail
joint or finger joint or Dado or a

rabbit joint, but I think we're
going to do a butt joint. So

go ahead, you know, take
the take that, take the skills,

art, pick the contractor shelf.
Be's myre fence set up. You know,

gets a sixty tooth car bye blade
on there and do all your rips

on that. Then you do your
cross cut on a slide compound miter saw,

and I'm ctirt getting all this like
crazy technical shit with him, and

then when I you know, then
would be over and and nobody knew who

I was or what I knew,
or they would go like as this guy's

a comedian. Seems like a comedian, but how's he know all this stuff?

About your working and stuff. Yeah, and then the character just kind

of caught fire while after that.
So it's so the character built in the

curiosity of the character. I know. Well, first of all, I

have to say I have such appreciation
and it's curious how you went into doing

video. I know you don't want
to be seeing, so maybe that was

the maybe that answers my own question
as to why you didn't be an actor,

because I have to tell you,
not all there is. That the

probably the best description of what it
would be to be an actor, and

I don't get that from many actors
I work with any kind of any kind

of that kind of specificity, because
developing an understanding of something that is going

to make people curious maybe the most
difficult thing that there is in performance to

to create that. Who the fuck
what is that? Not to mention I

want to hear it tomorrow and tomorrow
and tomorrow and tomorrow, and that is

something that you have done. I
I've been in this industry a long time,

so I say it's no big deal
to say that you have been a

voice of America, one of the
leading voices and the most download podcaster in

America, in the World Ashley is
the truth. And going from beginning this

character of curiosity and and humor was
was the leapoff, and I know that

then you were asked to join the
Kevin and bean show. How did that

transition happen? If you don't mind, because I am curious as hell and

loving the story to where went from
there. And of course we're going a

movie, we want to go on
to love line and how you changed many,

many, many young people's lives.
But how did it go into Kevin

and bean? And once you did, you get offered a position of formal

position. Wow, the you know, the character became really popular, but

I wasn't being paid, of course, and it just sort of morphed into

at some point it seemed like well, let's get him into the studio.

So and let's do ask Mr Bircham
where I take phone calls and do home

improvement questions because I knew I could
do it, because I knew that I

understood the business right of renovation and
remonds and home, you know, improvement

everything. So I was like I
can handle this. And it's some point

they started paying me fifty bucks a
bit and I was just kind of doing

piecemeal stuff. And I would go
in and maybe do four bits a week

and, you know, get two
hundred bucks and sewing and so forth.

But the character sort of kept taking
on a little bit of a life of

its own and eventually they gave me
a Saturday morning spot where, even though

it was Kay rock, I was
doing home improvement questions from like nine am

to zero am Saturday mornings or something
like that. Wow, I don't think.

I don't think they really knew what
was going on either. They just

thought, Oh, this guy's so
funny and he's and it's so the character

so popular, we should franchise it
a little bit. And I was just

happy to do anything. I didn't
know how to do a radio show or

do any of that, but I
was like I can talk. So we

did that for a little bit and
then and I started get in with the

morning show and, you know,
go out to breakfast with Jimmy and Kevin

and bean and Frank Murphy, the
producer, and so I could started in

kind of ingratiate myself into that group. Started follow up through the door like

yeah, I'm in here, and
you know, Jimmy and I would always

be talking about ideas of shows.
We wanted to do or, you know,

bits we could get onto Kevin and
bean or I you know, more

just he was a fountain in of
creativity. He was twenty six when I

met him. You know, it's
a ball of energy. He just wanted

to do more and create more and
make more and you know, sort of

it was sort of everything was sort
of aspirational, like we're going to blow

this Taco stand one day and we're
going to start doing our own thing together.

But it kind of felt like a
pipe drain. What had happened was

is Love Line was always on K
rock. It was always Sunday nights.

Yes, at some point they went
to five days a week and they and

they were going to syndicate. They
were going to take love line and push

it out to the rest of the
country, and the powers that be thought,

well, maybe they should, maybe
there should be some more comedy in

it, maybe somebody who has a
little better sense of humor rather than just

like a straight host should be involved. So they said to Dr Drew,

Hey, is there anyone you know
you think is funny you want to work

with? and Dr Drew, you
know, he doesn't run in the that

world. You know, it's a
no comics right actor me to Guy and

knowing him. So he just said, but I don't know who he is,

but I listened to a show Saturday
mornings when I'm doing the rounds at

the hospital or whatever. He listened, you know, and he was like,

I think this guy's really funny,
but I don't know what he who

he is or how is he old? Is He a carpenter? are like,

but I think the Guy Swanny.
So that's that's what I got.

So this is amazing. Program director, Kevin, he called me into his

office and I'll never forget it.
He said, we know Mr Bircham is

funny, but we don't know if
you're funny. Oh my God, which

is a perfect radio conversation to have
money. So I said, well,

I am funny, and he said, but I'm thinking about you cohosting love

line as Mr Burchell, and I'm
like, I just don't see two hours

a night of Mr Bircham on lovely. I don't think that could possibly work.

But I am funny and I could
do it. and He Kevin weatherly,

it just went all right, well, take a chance on it,

we'll give it a try, and
the rest of history fourteen fifteen months after

I was teaching boxing and on a
construction site and stuff, I was doing

a syndicated radio show. My goodness, I mean, we all know that's

a kind of miracle story, but
when you do but talk about it.

I do want to talk about where
you were, I mean the the the

way you were raised, because I
think it propelled you into the way that

you became the voice that you are. When people come to you or say,

Adam, how could I possibly on
the radio or do because you're your

story so unique and obviously one of
a kind because of who you are.

But what do you what do you
tell to kids who are trying to get

into a new place in their lives, are trying to move forward, like

you did, up and out of
a painful situation and become who they want

to become? Well, I always
tell them you have to show up,

you have to get to that place, like you have to. I had

to get into the radio station.
Yes, I used you know. The

part of the story you don't know, but that people should digest, is

I was a carpenter and when I
said to the guy who own the boxing

club, how about you give me
a shot to be a boxing instructor.

He just said. Now, why
not? I think I would be a

really good boxing instructor. And he's
like, we hire x champions and you're

not an x champion and we need
to sell you as a legitimate x champion

to get people to want to take
your class and you're not. So you

know, whether you can teach boxing
or not sort of irrelevant now. And

I said okay, and then I
noticed that at the boxing club he had

some of those speedbag stations that but
that, the, but, the,

the, but the, the,
but today, yeah, things with the

big round piece in the brackets,
it's and everything, and there were they

were sitting on the floor and I
said, I I bet you'd probably want

someone to hang those speedbag stations.
And I can see you got some heavy

bags laying on the ground and over
there and stuff. It seems like you

need somebody around here to put that
stuff up. You need a carpenter.

And he's like all of a sudden, it's is. His ears carked up.

He was like yeah, keep talking
and I was like, well,

good news, I'm a journeyman carpenter. Wow, and he's like yeah,

and I like, I'll tell you
what I'll hang those bags, I'll hang

those speedbag holders. I can do
that stuff and and all I want is

a chance. So I'm going to
I'm going to work in this gym for

you as a carpenter. I will
charge you flat rate, ten bucks an

hour. That's nothing, and I'll
do a good job for you. And

then you just need to let me
try to be a boxing coach here,

and that's all. And if I
can't do it, I can't do it.

And he said, okay, fine, hang the speedbags and and that's

where it started. I think that's
one of the coolest things to say.

Find the thing that you're good at. Of I mean, we'd say,

but everybody has their own excellence self. Is Our birthright to be born into

it. If you have it,
you have all of the other things than

the talent at your fingertips. But
sometimes the way in the door is to

the special thing that you know that's
all your own and nobody else knows it,

and it becomes this key to the
that opens all of the other ones.

They come in front of you and
and that's also acknowledging and, as

you say, showing up is showing
up for the things you're skilled at showing

up when you're in school looking at
the things that people do that you don't

know how to do. I think
the people think that sometimes you go alonger,

oh, Adam girl, it got
really lucky, or you know,

he was discovered on the Jimmy Kimlos
show, or and while she was discovered

and that she went into she did
a soap opera. The thing is the

skills that you have along the way. You never have to, you never

are okay to stop learning, because
the responsibility of a learned person is that

they have the ability to walk in
and be a journeyman of certain things.

You know things. They don't just
come to you because you think, hey,

you know what, I really deserved
to be an Improv artist, so

I should be able to have my
own TV show. That's not the way

that it works. You gotta Work
Your Life, the things that you care

about, the things that you own, and where it is and what the

skills are. Now, obviously you
are not a journeyman when you went on

to love line. So when you
approach that as a as a new be

in terms of Atas show host,
what was the experience of becoming something that

you'd never been before. Well,
you know, interviewing is definite skill that

I didn't possess. It's something that's
kind of invisible. Really only get it

from wraps. You know, I
didn't know how to interview people, wasn't

a good listener. I was lacking
a lot of essential skills that someone in

my position needed. I was funny
enough to kind of make up for it

and, you know, funny kind
of heals all wounds. You know,

you can kind of get away with
a lot of other kind of deficits and

your ability if you're really funny with
it. All right, and then it

is certain point. You know,
a year goes by and you interviewed people

and you're starting to get a skill
set down and you're starting to get your

tenzero hours in and your repetitions and
and you know, all these years later,

I really feel like now I'm actually
becoming a much better interviewer than I

was, you know, even ten
years ago. If we run out of

time, because I know we're getting
close, oh my goodness, I want

to touch me have anywhere back quickly
on the man show, because that is

I feel like that's a Arara gone
by. I would love it if we,

I mean I that show was so
fantastic. I can't imagine what it

would be today. We would be
canceled it, I know, but I

think it. And then before you
go, we do, I. We

do want to talk about your new
show on the daily wire. So it's

already been forty mins. Yeah,
I mean out, I just enjoy talking

to you and I really love very
seriou. Let's go to let's get a

man show. Yes, we like
that. For people if they don't remember

that show, it was like a
just celebration of I mean, I Guess

Mail showed the funniest way right.
I mean, why would you describe that

show and what do you think it
would look like? It wasn't. Was

it the antidote to love line?
How did that get bored? Hi,

Jimmy and I want to do a
show together and we want to do a

show where we kind of said what
we wanted to say and had our own

sensibilities and so on and so forth. And Jimmy, at this point in

his career, he was starting to
go out on some auditions and hosting auditions

and he was coming home, or
maybe he came home, because I don't

think he had a cell phone at
the time. But he came home from

some audition and the audition was for
him to host some sort of daytime syndicated

got the guy, got the Gal. They're going to talk news and current

events or something, and he said
to me. I go, well,

how that audition go and he goes
not, not well, and then I

said well, what's the problem?
What happened? And he said well,

they said I needed to be likable
to women, and then he paused.

Anyone my wife doesn't even like.
I said okay, and he said,

you know, we should do our
own show, and I said all right,

and he goes it should just be
the man show, like we don't

need to be likable to women.
We'll just do our own show to be

will call it the man show and
we'll just hire all the people we want

to work with and we'll just do
our own thing. And I was like,

all right, that sounds good,
but I don't know how that's every

who's going to let us do our
own show? And at some point,

I don't know, the La Times
or something was doing some feature on me

and the reporter was a huge fan
of Mr Burcham and his editor was not

a big fan of mine. And
you know, he kept coming back to

me for interviews. Is Any kept
going my editor kind of once more like

in once to know what you're doing, you know, other than Bircham or

love line, and I was like, well, I'm working on this show

called the man show. You know, it's going to be a big hit,

you know, said. I mean
they didn't know who Jimmy Kimmel was.

I don't think, and it's our
own thing, you know whatever.

I was just like kind of patting
the resume right, yeah, and because

we weren't doing anything with it,
we weren't pitching it, nobody wanted it

whatever. And then of course Jimmy
saw the article and he was pissed.

He was like, why are you
talking about the man show? Those going

to steal our idea? I don't
know. He kept asking me what more.

I was kind of lying, you
know. And Michael Davies, he

was a executive now and if this
was an executive as secretary at ABC,

like gave them the article or something
and he was reading it. It's like

the man show, that sounds like
an interesting idea. So he called us

into the office and the next thing
you know, we're doing a pilot on

acy. That is head shot.
I need to get on your I need

to get on your luck ride.
I I've really I need to hit you

know you wanted to hitch onto the
group over there at the Mid County beach.

I'm going to hitch right onto you, Carl. Your your your jectory

is beautiful and also your but what
you speak to kids when you were growing

up, I know as hard I
need to know this. When you went

on to love line, how did
you develop and did you develop a set

of boundaries? Are How did you
learn how to speak? And yes,

you talked about interviewing, but speak
so directly and positively to kids? Did

you have boundaries that you set?
Did you know how far you could push

them? Because you did. You
made people think normally or logically, or

at least without the judgment that they
had through any of the situations that they

were dealing with, let alone the
sexual reality that they were living in,

from SDD's to everything else that you
guys just put in front of everyone and

said let's talk about this. Did
you develop that with Dr drew or what?

Because that certainly is a philosophy on
life. You're starting a new show

that is even deeper into the truth
than I guess I want to get to

what your truthful philosophy is about yourself
in life and how you've been able to

share it. I just went in
thinking, you know, I like psychology,

I like comedy, I like the
human condition. I study it.

My Dad, it's a therapist later
in life and I come from a group

of people that are sort of counselors
and like kind of therapists and stuff like

that. Not Successful, but that's
kind of the family trade. So we

are. Childhood had some interest in
that and I just thought I'm just going

to listen and then just be honest
and I'll just trust my instincts. I'm

not going to second guess myself or
the advice I give. I have Dr

drew here is kind of a you
know, as sort of training wheels.

I'm not he's not going to let
me get too far into the weeds with

some of this stuff and I'll just
being sort of neutral and honest and and

I'll listen to everybody and I'll I'll
just instinctively tell them what I'm feeling.

Of course. I think you've continued
for Goo the incredible amount of your career

and going in building into your next
moment, which heather. Why don't we

talk that? I'd like to hear
from you, I think. What what

are you doing with the daily wire? The daily wire, I'm doing a

series of six stand up specials.
The Rob Riggle and Jay Leno are on

the first two. I'm doing another
one a TJ Miller and Patrick Warburton.

I think Shatner's going to join me
for wow. is well yells on the

roster. HMM. Ye, have
any girls on the roster? Oh,

yeah, we're we are always looking, and so I'll actually where your hat

in the rain. We're I mean, Hian, you just taught me a

great big lesson. I'm still you
know, I may not be a kid,

but I still know that. I
always ask for permission to put my

ring into have rain. The hand
did stand up for a bit. Really

went downtown and she got up.
I'm not that I'm funny. I could

also be for an audience. Well, we do stand up, we do

an interview, we do improvs,
kind of a hybrid show, but our

long sort of stand up specials that
are a little bit different than what you

might see formatically on Netflix or HBO
or something like that and the daily wires,

just the place that wanted to do
business. HBO and Netflix. They

you know, I don't think they're
fans of mine. Maybe maybe I say

things they disagree with sometimes, and
we're just living in that new world order.

So I just went somewhere that wanted
to hear what I had to say,

and that was the day the daily
wire. I might just show up

at your studio and wait. So
you wait till you come out of the

elevator, even though you don't have
an elevator in your studio. Let's we

want to say. I know our
audience is so happy that we've been able

to talk to Adam. It feels
like I was honored to be be interviewed

by you and feels like our conversation
continues as people who just enjoy speaking the

truth, telling it like it is, at also continuing to encourage, I

think, to others. Thank God, of CAIRLA. Thanks Anon. A

head appreciate it better. I was
afraid to tell wait I got I gotta

say something. I don't I you
know. I said I grew up in

La and the S and all of
this. Yes, is it about the

here station? What I remembered crank
calling love line. We would crank called

love line with like fake problems.
Are you kidding? Don't but here's something

to people did that cares wondered because
I can't remember if we actually I can't

remember if we got on. I
can't remember what our story was, but

I want to know what other made
up big recollection of crank calling love line.

I was thinking about towards the end
of the interview and I thought like,

I'm not going to bring this up
people. I am the exact opposite

of there with that's hilarious that you
did that, but I kind of I

kind of had the opposite because I'm
I'm, I'm, I'm going to call

on a different level. I think
he's so cute. I want to date

them. I don't know do it. And I said that when we drove

to the radio station and because Anne
was on his podcast. But yes,

and and that's a fun interview too. Yeah, by the way, he's

taught me a lot and I think
one of the things that he says he

went he went into his world having
no idea, and that's why when we

say like go after now we can
say it's wood shop, but but to

go after who knew that that would
be the key to it? Wasn't.

It was boxing did that, he
trained right and then his character became what

shot character. The the connecting of
the dots of our lives is really interesting

and what I would love that he
basically says is when you tune into that

thing, it would just will surprise
you that that becomes the path and on

better together. We really want to
encourage the the thinking about yourself, being

truthful about what it is that you
like, embracing that and then letting that

lead rather than what somebody else thinks
about you or thinking, Oh, I

got to do it this they way. He broke down every door, he

waited in waiting. Do you good? And do we're like to you and

have the guts. Yeah, Amen, Holy Anyway, man, that was

fun. That was fun. Man, show that was fun and a big,

big thanks to our better together team, Ryan Tillotson, Silvana, Alcohola,

Daniel Ferrara and, of course,
and in Heather. If you haven't

already, please subscribe on whatever device
or platform you're listening to this on and,

as always, see you next week.
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