Brandi Glanville Unfiltered : The Ins and Outs of Divorce

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Straw hut media. Brandy, allright, I'm going to invite them in.
Looks Awesome. Look at you,look like you're ready to run a
meeting. I'm definitely not from Strawhut media. This is Brandy Granville on
the film. Hey, everybody,welcome to Brandy Glanville unfiltered. Today on
the show I have famous divorce attorneyDrawer Bakel, and he is going to
be filling us in on all thingsdivorce. And I've only done it once,
so I feel like I know itall, but I'm about to find
out I don't, and you guysare probably going to need this after a
year together in quarantine. Just someadvice. They might want to write some
stuff down, but let's get intoit. He has all the answers and
I want to know them. Sogetting I have so many questions for you
her. Yeah, okay. Firstof all, I mean you have a
lot of celebrity clients and you're basedout of New York, but to clients
come to you from Lah as well. I do to hire you from Lah.
Yeah, we've represented some clients basedout of La over the years and
it's usually people that reside both inLa and New York, and so they're
they're trying to resolve poverty disputes andmaybe some custody issues of what as well,
in both locations. But if you'reif you're going to go to court
in Los Angeles, then that wouldrequire a local attorney like Neal Hirsh,
fucking asshole. He was better presidentattorney and I didn't get anything. So
I had I definitely picked the worstattorney. But is this the state in
York? So my ex husband calledall of the attorney, all of the
good attorneys that just to call andset up meetings so that when I called,
they're like, it's a conflict ofinterest, and so it's yeah,
I'm sorry, go ahead, no, that's it. I mean it's yeah,
yeah, it's a really sleazy thingto do and, to tell you
the truth, the it's hard forus as attorneys to know whether people are
actually trying to do that, youknow, like somebody comes in and they
reveal comp you know, information thatis confidential about their lives, their marriage,
their assets, and we don't knowwhether they're using us to conflict this
out or they're honest with us.And truthfully, it's you know, it's
not a nice thing to do,but it works. I mean I think
that divorce definitely brings out the worstin people. I know it wasn't.
I wasn't my best self during mydivorce because I was so angry and and
I felt so I just it wasthe worst time. I was the worst
human being that I could be duringthat because, you know, to think
that someone that you love so muchcould then want to go through the House
and say you get this, youget this, you know what I made
it just so crazy. You know, it's the the courts are across this
street from where you can get yourmarriage license, and so you sit there
and people look and say, youknow, we were across the street some
time ago, in love, gettingmarried, looking at each other's eyes,
talking about our life together. Howdid we get from there to here?
And it's a journey of you know, a lot of pain, a lot
of her a lot of miscommunication,a lot of anger over period of time,
and that's that's what happens. Andyou know, I don't know if
I won't say all attorneys are thisway, but I've had, you've had
plenty of attorneys in my life fordifferent things, but it almost seems like
sometimes the attorneys want the fighting togo on because that way they can keep
the building cycle going on. AndI mean it's just it's a vicious circle.
Like I saw my attorney having lunchwith his attorney like laughing, and
I was like what, yeah,yeah, well, let me that's those
those are great, great points,and those are things that people ask us
all the time, like, isn'tit in your interest as an attorney for
the transaction of the divorce to belonger and to be more contentious because you'll
make more money? And the truthis, yes, it is. Yeah,
but but if you look at ita different way, which is try
to make your clients happy, right, we're in the service business, so
if making the clients happy means fightingto the bitter end, and that's what
we do. If making the clientshappy means resolving it expeditiously without a lot
of acrimony and a lot of cost, then we'll do that too, and
the client will be happy and hopefullythink of us in the future if they
are a friend or a family memberneed us. So you know, the
our philosophy is to is to justtry to make people happy. It tends
to work out. But you're absolutelyright. I mean the longer the transaction,
the more buildings just people are mad, they want it, they want
to keep fighting. So I mean, if that's what they want, you
have to do it. So Idon't win the lawyers for that. Yeah,
but my brother right now is actuallygoing through divorce and I was able
to kind of mediate between my sisterin law my brother and said, listen,
you guys don't have a lot ofmoney in the first place. Why
go get expensive attorneys and fight overShit you don't have? And Yeah,
so they are actually they're going there. They have a mediator and they're doing
such a good job. The beginningwas rough because I had to like I
just had to intervene in like youguys, I spent, you know,
a quarter of a million dollars inmy divorce and I ended up with nothing
because we spent it all and youguys don't have that. So, but
I think at the same time,you know, California is a no fault
state. I don't know what NewYork is no fault. Yeah, yes,
I, yeah, not. Weweren't always. I think six,
seven, eight years ago they changethe law, but now we're no fault.
Yeah, I said it doesn't matterwho cheated or who did what.
I'm like, it doesn't no judgeis going to say, okay, you
deserve this because he's an asshole.Yeah, but there are states that that.
which do you know the states thatare fault states? There's there's very
few, one or two. I'mnot recalling which ones, but they're very
few. In the truth is,the fault states, they'll find fault with
a very low threshold. So iteven if it's on the books, it's
it's not really an issue. Imean, we're a country where people can
get divorced if they want to.But you know, to your point about
mediation, mediations wonderful and and youknow it's good that your brother is doing
it and it'll save him money.You're a hundred percent right. One of
the dangers of mediation is that ifyou have a power and balance in the
marriage where you have one party iscontrolling the other, and it's often done,
and this is a total stereotype andthere's more holes in the cheese than
cheese, but I'm just going tosay it anyway. The men control the
money, the women control the kids. Now, that's not a good relationship,
of course, but if you're tryingto resolve, I'm just going to
say, financial issues, and youhave Wall Street guys who are turning the
screws and hiding enough fully disclosing.They're going to do the same in mediation
right. So you know, that'swhere you got to be careful with the
mediation with them. You know,the medias have to really step in.
I feel like, Oh gosh,there's so many things that I would do
differently if I if I knew now, like so, like I didn't have
a prenup and everyone's like, you'reso lucky you didn't have a prenup.
I'm like, actually, I probablywould have ended up with a lot more
if I had one. So peoplewith automatically think that prenups are art like
a great thing, what Watcher Watch? Or a bad thing or, you
know, I don't want to signone. What is your take on a
Prenup? Well, it's not.They're not very romantic. It's a little
bit of a weird thing to negotiate, you know, when you're trying to
build a life together this arms lengthbusiness deal. But the truth is I
do think that that in certain circumstancesprenups are smart. So if you get
a couple that are in their twentiesand it's their first marriage, what about?
You know, what do you needa Prenup for? You know,
maybe if one side has a lotof family money and and you know they
want to protect the family money,but they can do that other ways without
a pre nup. So and there'sproblems with that which I can you know,
I can get into the weeds of. But you know, the young
people first marriage, what's I justdon't see the point of it. If
you know, it's your second marriage, you have kids, you've been through
this before, you have savings,you have a brand, you have a
business. Well, that's a differentstory. I think in that situation,
people in their S or s orolder, you know, you don't want
to fight, you don't want anyproblems with lawyers and courts. Situations like
that, I do think a prenupis smart just to have peace of mind.
Now and I what is what ison? A lot of people talk
about getting a post not what exactlydoes that? I mean, I know
what it needs, kind of.But yeah, yeah, well, the
Post nuptual agreement. And you know, we had a case where there was
like six post natural agreements like theweirdest thing. But it's people who are
married and then enter into an agreementafter they're married. So if you the
word nuptual, associate with the wordmarriage. So pre marriage's pre NUP,
post marriage postnup, and so it'sjust an agreement after the marriage that talks
about what happens in a divorce.And you know, if people, let's
say, they buy a property,they want to address how that property will
be disposed on a divorce, they'lldo a post not they buy another property,
another postnup. You know, it'sthat they can just go on and
on and on change the terms.It's that kind of thing. Some people
say like Oh, I have anironclad pre nup. Is it can?
I mean can prenups kind of bebroken if things change? Like that's say
they came into a lot of moneyand and it's not the same as it
was when they first met and gotmarried. Yeah, so the the the
prenuptial agreements, if they're negotiated andsigned properly, are enforceable unless there's some
sort of fraud or deress, likeundo pressure eve of marriage. If you
don't sign this and you don't havea lawyer and you know that kind of
thing, bullying. Yeah, youknow it'll be enforceable. The one exception
is if there's something just truly unconscionableabout it. So let's just say,
you know, each party gets theirown you know, keeps their own assets.
They don't have much, but thenthe husband earns a lot during the
marriage. It's his according to thepre nup. But if they get a
divorce, the wife doesn't get anything. They have three kids, she can't
afford her own home. You know, she's going to have to move far
away from the children like that kindof thing's not going to fly. So
it can't be something that is likecrazy hurting somebody. But otherwise, if
it was done correctly by the lawyers, it'll be enforceable. I just wish
that I had once that I wouldI knew, I would know that I
would get something at the end.I never thought I would get a divorce.
It wasn't like, you know,my parents married to this day.
I don't think you ever go intoa marriage thinking you're going to get a
divorce. Yeah, that would besad. Yeah, but I just feel
like I I would at least knowed. I tell all my friends on I
get a prenup. Get a prenup, I would have at least known I
would get something. Well, dependswhat the PRENUP says. I mean,
you know, if your ex husbandis a lawyer and the prenup says,
you know, my law practice ismine, or my brand or my business
or whatever it is, and allthe income I learned from my business is
going to during the marriage is goingto be mine, then the other spouse
doesn't get anything. It really dependswhat the PRENUP says. Oh, and
then you got to agotiate that allbefore you get married and you got to
do it in plenty of time beforethe wedding. You can't do it right
at the bitter end, it's notgoing to fly. So you know,
it's it's very complicated, these prenups, but you know, in in in
certain situations, it's worth doing forsure. Yeah, particularly that second time
around. Now I won't be doingit again. I'm like that good once.
Was that that? Well, Ifeel like getting out of the marriage
was so hard and it was sounhealthy and it was just I was literally
just so unhappy for two years ofmy life. Yeah, and like I
would, yeah, I want tobe with someone again and like share my
home with someone and be in love, but I just don't see the point
right now for to do that allagain. Well, it's it's the the
divorce process is so crushing right it'slike you're on the Mat. I mean
it's just it's this thing hanging overyou and it's constant upset. It's huge
stress. You're dealing with lawyers andsometimes judges and your kids and this person
that you love, and it's,no, it's I would say it's all
consuming and in affects every part ofyour life and you know, it's very
difficult. Something that did happened tome and it's happening to one of my
girlfriends right now, is my exdecided, he cided that we split like
six months before we were still fullytogether, living together. He's like,
oh no, we split in March. I'm like, we were together until
September. I didn't even know youwere having an affair. And what is
why is that? Well, Imean the issue or the issue of an
affair, doesn't really matters so much, you know. The only why is
he saying that we split so muchearlier than we did? I think probably
to make himself feel better because hewas having an affair. So just to
say in his mind, mean there'sno financial consequence to that and unless there's
a filing for divorce. So thatis the point where assets earned start to
separate. So that's the consequences offiling. When you guys say you separate
and don't separate, I mean that'sa really no consequence, but people say
to make themselves feel better. Youknow, I told you, you know,
and then the affair is not sobad. You know, we were
separated and you know I kind ofhinted really strongly and you should have known.
And you know, I definitely thoughtthere were some financial now, no
reason, because I'm like, Oh, maybe he doesn't want to pay alimony
or childs for longer than he's supposedto. I know, I mean you're
still you're still you're still living together, right, right, you were still
yeah. So, I mean itwas status quo financially and there was no
filing. So so he's just asociopath. I just okay, many sounds
and you know, look, he'ssaid manipulative. What can I tell you?
You know, it sounds like he'sangling and trying to, you know,
angle things his way. And youknow that's what people do, I
mean men and women. Right,of Righty, we get along fine now.
So this is like this was adecade ago. It's okay, paid
for us to get along fine,but we are, you know, happily
co parenting. One other question.Well, I turn out the answer,
but a lot of men I find, I don't know if you find this,
during like I was the caretaker ofthe children, like he didn't change
a diaper, I did everything.I we verily saw. But then when
we split he wanted fifty custody andI was like you don't even know these
children. Yeah, yeah, wasthat because you didn't want to pay so
much in child support? Well,I mean, you know. So I
don't know him personally, but butI will tell you that with young kids,
where mom is a primary caretaker anddad suddenly comes in and as father
of the year and wants shared time, is a very common thing and it's
very, very hurtful to the mothers. It's kind of like well, first
of all, the children come fromyou and there you know, if you
have young children, you know yousee them as vulnerable. Dad is usually
you know, they called Dad Disneylandand Mom Broccoli. Right, you're the
MOM's a routine oriented and the DAD'sor TV and pizza. Mom's are organic
food. You know, that's liketypical dynamic. You know, it does
mean potentially less child support, thatthat the the father would pay. And
then there's also with some people,there's also a lot of ego involved.
They need to feel like they're equalparents and having fifty percent of the time
doesn't doesn't mean you're equal and havingless doesn't mean you're not equal. It's
the quality of time that you spendwith your children that matters. That's what
they're going to remember. If youhave a night or two less, it
doesn't matter if when you're with them, you're really with them right now.
If you have more time and youshuffle them off to a babysitter, than
okay. Then what's the extra nightworth? You know, so so with
many young children. And again,it's is a generalization. I'm going Dad's,
you know, I'm just giving youa there's a lot of this competition,
this I need equal you know whatshe gets. I get that kind
of thing. And for the MOM'sit's very, very hurtful, very hard,
so hard. It's like you gofrom like being at seven mom and
then you're like empty house and it'sI think that was the hardest part for
me, and not I that's whyI thought for so long, because I
wanted, I wanted more custody,like that was the biggest to you.
Yeah, and there's a difference betweenlittle boys and little girls. Do you
have boys or girls? I haveboys. Yeah, boys, okay,
because the boys the father's and youknow, the father is do a little
bit better with the boys than thegirls because you know, it's harder for
us to do the hair and theburetts and the princess play, and you
know, it's just is. Andthen this is not every father and it's
like a stereotype, where with theboys, you know, we can throw
the ball around and get them inlittle league and that's so that's a little
easier for us, to be honest. So you know. But yeah,
I mean this idea of having sharedtime with little kids is, you know,
is a real it's a real stickingpoint. Sometimes it is shared and
sometimes it isn't. You know,it really depends on the case. Well,
I have a very important question toask you, because my this son
is seventeen and a half. Okay, and very much like he'll be eighteen
and six months. Yeah, Iknow that child support supposed to end eighteen,
but he'll still still be paying foreverything and he'll still be letting me
he wants to go to college.But in the pandemic I don't know if
that's happening next year. I meanwe've replied, but I mean I'll still
be footing the bill for, youknow, his everything. But is it
for sure done at eighteen? Yeah, but your unless there's some you know,
special needs or something. But ifyour ex should be a stand up
guy, though, and help out, because the expenses are still there.
And you know it this. Youknow pandemic era jobs, colleges, you
know that's all on hold or remoteand the parents have to fit the bill
for the for the housing, itthe food costs, you know, the
electronics. I mean that all costmoney. So yeah, I mean your
x should should. I mean,I mean, but legally he doesn't have
to. I'm so and it.Can we change that? Can we use
yeah, it's the age. Yeah, work on the legislature. I think
the health insurance does can be expandedout and you know, college has to
be paid for, but but thebasic child support stops. It a team.
So yeahdcast, so you know we'regonna, but it's just bringing kids
our giant. They want to eatevery two hours there. Yeah, they're
going to private school. They're gonna. I mean it's just it's a lot.
I mean just because private school willbe ending for high school. College
is I mean we have, wehad a condo that we put into a
I don't know what we put it. It's for their college. So that's
paid for. I have to worryabout but you know, that's a huge
expense, as you know. Imean that's, you know, eighty grams
a year. And Yeah, no, it's I mean that's what we're paying
now and it's like college at Yeah, tell if you're if you're ex you
know what, if he doesn't wantto write a check to you for whatever
reason, if he could write acheck or at least give some money to
your son, maybe directly, sothat, you know, just to help
your son when he goes out toget something to do with his friends or
just, you know, so youdon't have at least that expense, you
know, gas money, something tokind of ease the burden on you.
He should do that that's just beinga stand up parent. It's not a
issue of child supports, just,you know, supporting each other. So
tell us something that we like thatisn't common knowledge about divorce. was I
feel like a lot of US myage have been divorced and I feel like
I know too much about it.But there's I mean there's some things I
don't like. Obviously we don't alwaysknow. So what can you tell me
that is like, maybe not commonknowledge? Well, what I'll tell you
this that the divorce cork, thejudges have a huge amount of discretion on
how they can allocate custody and childsupport. It's not, it's not.
There's formulas and and but it's notalways set in stone and so different judges
handle things differently. And so asattorneys, when clients asked US advice,
you know, it's kind of likeand we don't you know, to be
honest, I don't say this toclients. It's but what I'm thinking is
what judge and what day of theweek? Right? I don't know.
You know, it depends on whatjudge had assigned to and depends on his
or her mood that day or thatweek. You know, they change their
minds a lot and you know,it's a very hard job. It's not
a criticism, but so those sowhat what you think you may get from
one judge you may not get fromanother, and that's a really, really
hard thing to deal with as apractitioner and also as a party going through
this. You know, here's acompantly trying to measure. You know it
is never going to be this.I mean you don't know we're going to
be the same. Yeah, thatis difficult. Yeah, the other question
I kind of have. Well,I had, which now I just don't
care anymore. But there's no,there's no policing a divorce settlement like there's.
I you know, I had certainthings in my settlement, but he
just didn't do it and it waslike well, I mean, and I
didn't want to go hire a alawyer again. Yeah, that was so
expensive. But like, when youhave this divorce decree like and you you're
supposed to abide by it, peopledon't get that. Like I had no,
I didn't have a recourse. LikeI'm just like, it's here,
it's what we're supposed to do.But there's a policing it. Yeah,
so that's unfortunate. So yeah,I mean people were it's not worth the
money, the transaction cost, tohire a lawyer to enforce the agree memant.
Then people are just stuck. Imean and a lot of a lot
of the people that owe the money, the people that are in violation,
they take advantage of that, theysay. They think to themselves, okay,
I owe her fiftyzero dollars, butit's going to cost her a hundred
thousand to get a lawyer, sowhy should I pay the fifty? She's
never going to pay the Andred.It's you're right, it's terrible and there's
not much you can do about it. But I did occur to me,
to answer your prior question. Youhave that about something, something that people
don't always know. I actually somethingelse occurred to me. They're no winners
and there's nobody's going to raise yourhand at the end. You nobody's going
to get that feeling of I wasright and you were wrong. It's never
going to happen and I think peopleare driven often in these kind of conflicts
with this like Kn'ts. If theyonly knew what she did to me or
what he did to me right,we would see and then I would feel
validated. It never happens. Theprocess work like that. It's it's an
accounting on money and how the childrenspend their time. That's it. I
mean, I've I tried it.I didn't know that at the time because
I was just I felt so wronged. I wanted to be right. I
wanted someone to tell me I wasright. I know, like, he's
a horrible person. You're getting everythingthat because you want that validation. But
I learned very quickly that they don'tcare. They're just here to divide and
say this is yours and this isyours and here's the custody situation. Like
that's it. Like you guys arereferees. You're not. You're not here
to say, Oh my God,you were so wrong. You get it
all like there are you're right,there's no winners and even if you were
wrong, you still walk away withwhat you're going to walk away with either
way. Yeah, yeah, so, I so you're right and and it's
just and people want to be heardand seeing and want to be validated.
It does happen in little, smallsnippets. So I'll tell you very quick
story. So I represented a womanwho owns the home in who still owns
a home in and Tucket, inCape Cod, and it was her home
prior to the marriage and she ownedit during the marriage. Wasn't her husband's,
and she was there with their dot, with their young daughter, and
the husband did some bad things andhe wanted to go and stay at that
home to visit the daughter and myclient said, look, I don't want
you in this house, but Iwant you to see our daughters. So
go runt to place your own placein and tucket and spend time with our
daughter, but they don't want youcoming to this home. So he went
to court and he said, look, they use this home during the marriage.
He has a right to be inthis home during this divorce process and
technically he's not wrong. Okay,the judge, Judge Laura Drager, actually
very famous judge of New York,she recently retired, said he's not coming
into that home. Forget it,and because he did some things that were
not yeah, she said forget it. But I do want to state on
the record I want to commend themother for facilitating parenting time between the child
and her father. I know thatthe mother's very upset by the father's conduct
and I don't blame her, butI commend her for going above and beyond,
despite her pain and her hurt,to facilitate this parenting time. And
of course my client, of coursefelt validated and was crying. And then
I started to get tier, whichis really embarrassing cry lawyers policy. I
started to get tier. The judgeslooking at me like, Oh my God,
I we are you seriously, likeit's is happening right now. But
you know, we start to bondwith our clients and it was a really
emotional moment. So you know,once in a while it does happen,
but your experience is much more commonwhere you're just, you know, I
don't want to say like cattle,because that's not the case, but you're
kind of in and out. Soso I don't know if you and I
have a she's a friendly acquaintance.She's on Real House as of New York.
Her name's Bethany Franko. I'm sureyou've heard of yeah, sure,
I've seen her in court actually years. Okay, yeah, to Judge Kaplan,
great judge. Well, she's beentrying to get a divorce for a
long, many years. Yeah,yeah, how, like, how is
it possible that if one person wants, like, how how long can divorces
drag out? Yeah, yeah,so, and particularly with covid. So
the I remember seeing her in courtsome time ago. So I am a
little surprised because they've been they've beenlitigating for a long time, years.
Yeah, look, I mean there'sone judge to two three hundred cases,
and so it's just impossible. Thisis New York City, man, I'm
just talking about Manhattan, and Ibelieve she was in front of Judge Deborah
Kaplan, who I know very wellwas an amazing judge and I know Judge
Kaplan would want to do the rightthing for that family. The the I
think it's just a matter of issueskeep popping up, like the parties are
just not able to resolve things andso the courts and the lawyers need to
constantly get involved. It's just gotto be a very high conflict situation and
that just drags it out. Ifyou add covid where that's just slowing everything
down, I mean now it don'tor the court. Like I had a
lot of suit that we happened rightwhen covid started and the courts shut down.
So it definitely we're supposed to bedone a long time. It's done
now, but it's, yeah,an extra six months. You know,
it was. Yeah, yeah,so divorce court is happening, but it's
remote and it's slower and there's there'sa lot of more there's a lot of
filings because, you know, peopleare, you know, killing each other
during covid you're gonna be busy,right, you're gonna be. I feel
like either people are like, Ifeel like people are be having babies at
the same time as a're getting divorces. Yeah, like, I very busy.
Listen, we were meant to livetogether seven. I mean we're particularly
particularly on the back end, youknow, I think right now. You
know, the virus is raging rightnow, but particular people don't want to
really many people don't want to makea move. You know, they're scared
just for health reasons. But yeah, I mean we're busy. The courts
are very busy for sure, youknow, and it's like it's going to
get worse. Like a half ofmy married friends are like, you're so
lucky you're single right now. I'mlike, I'm lonely. They're like,
no, you're lucky. Let meit's tough. It's hard to meet people
and you know, if you're single, it's hard to hard to meet people
during this time, although I doknow I have some clients actually who have
met you know, they do likesome sort of virtual dating or something and
they've met people. So it's itis happening. But I like I toy
around with like I have like aboyfriend of the week online and then I
just I ghost him and I blockhim, but I mean because it's not
like I'm going to actually meet upwith him and swaps it it because that's
covid. I'm not doing that rightnow. Well, you know, I
think would people do it really slowly, you know, they just tell meet
at a distance if they like eachother. It slowly, slowly. You
know, you have to feel safe. You may if you know people in
common and quarantine for a little bit. You know, it is happening.
I do know some people that havemet people. So, you know,
I don't know. Everybody has theirown comfort level. I'm just I'm a
all my friends like fun of me, but I'm like I go out with
gloves. I'm like at the bubblegirl, like I'm I cover my ears,
my eyes my nose. I'm definitelyafraid, and I mean and people
like my neighbors are having people overand I'm just going what. There's one
La is really bad right now.All of our ye I see us,
are full. There's one in fivepeople have covid like four hundred people died
yesterday from covid alone and in LosAngeles County. And I don't understand why
people are not taking this seriously andmaking fun of me because I do.
Yeah, I don't know what's goingon in La. Honestly, it sounds
terrible. It's it sounds terrible,it's hard. Sorry, go ahead.
No, no, I was goingto say I think it's even a different
strain than it is here in NewYork because the the I don't think the
hospitals are filled to the same levelthat you guys are there. So I
don't know if it seems to beless virulent here. It certainly was very
in the very bad. Again,no, I have a lot of friends
that live in New York. Iused to live there, but I think
New Yorkers are taking it more seriously. Like I go out here and restaurants
are open. They're not supposed tobe. People are out, they're not
wearing masks, they're just being superirresponsible. As the problem La is,
like I've I've literally said I'm notyour friend anymore if you're like refusing to
wear yeah, not fair. Yeah, I'm with you. You know,
it's I don't understand the you know, I don't want to live in fear
and mentality, because it's really notabout people's fears. It's about stopping chains
of infection so that the virus stoppedspreading. It doesn't. It's not about
one person's fear or not, andI just don't understand that mentality. Like
we need to stop the infection chain, so we need to social distance and
take care. I just that Iwant to see my kids get married one
day and have grandkids, like.I want that and like and I just
feel like people are so irresponsible whereI live that I really am unfriending people.
And yesterday, while we obviously wesaw but the right how or like
the whole thing that happened in WashingtonDC, and I just pray that all
of those idiots get covid. Imean that was terrible. Yeah, you
know, that was terrible. Itwas really a dark moment for our country.
Yeah, you know, I happenedpersonally to like president like Biden and
vice president like Harris. Just Ijust think they're fine people. And speaking
of divorces, you know certainly trumphas his has his experiences, because he
had a knockout, drag out fightwith a Vanka, with a Vana trump
rather, and then his second wifeand now his third wife. So you
know he's been through the ringer withthe divorces, that's for sure. Well,
he deserves it, I'm getting evenmy friends that are trump supporters are
like he's an idiot. Now,like I was not trump supporters or republicans.
They don't necessarily support Runica. Theyjust happened to be rich and they
wanted the tax breaks. Yeah,but now there's yesterday. They're like this,
this fucking idiot, like what,like he's we don't need to talk
about him, right. But justhave tell me about all your books,
because I know that my son andI were looking at one the this morning.
It was called the one percent divorce. That's it. What is that?
Yeah, yeah, so, soyou know, these issues with the
super rich are are kind of fun. You know, the the the divorce
formulas kind of the same for everybody. It really doesn't, particularly with the
children. But with US said,it doesn't matter how much you have or
don't have. Accept when you're wealthy, you have. It's just more asset
categories to value, and so thatcan become interesting. You know, if
I have a client who's a galleristin own six hundred pieces of art,
you gotta you gotta value her business, value her art. People different valuations,
different valuations methodologies. So that becomesstars interesting, you know. So
you know, we put it ina book just the experiences of these kind
of high net worth divorces. ButI also talk about custody, in orders
of protection and you know, otherissues that that people go through on a
regular basis. I mean we representeverybody, not just right we represent you
know, we do probon not workfor women who are victims of domestic violence.
I mean we do, you know, try to help people. I
do have friends that are lawyers,so I know there are good lawyers.
I am my last layer. Iloved him like I still I. Key's
my friend to this day and wedon't really have anything in common. We
just we just got along and Ilike is why I just check on them.
But for the most part I thinkpeople have a really negative what is
it a negative? They don't peopleto love lawyers. When they hear the
yeah, it's like, Oh,I hate lawyers, you know. Yeah,
yeah, I mean and and Itotally understand that. I mean,
who wants to pay a divorce lawyer? Really, like, is that really
where people want to spend their moneyon? People like me? I mean,
nothing personal against me, but it'sit's my profession. Like, who
wants to spend your life savings onsomething like this? It's not why you
saved your money to spend it onthem, you know. So I understand
that and I think that's legitimate.And you know, I tell people,
people ask me how much is thisdivorce kind of going to cost, and
I tell them it's really up toyou and your spouse. Yeah, keep
it low conflict. It'll be anexpensive if it's conflict, I got to
be involved more, and so it'sup to you, guys. The problem
is is that it only takes oneto make it high conflict, and so
often times one of the spouses canbe really reasonable and fair and just kind
of be like, let's just befair to each other, and then the
other one can be off the gridhigh conflict and that that's a problem.
Well, because emotions are involved.I like, it was just like a
business situation and there's no emotions involved. Yeah, that's where, yeah,
hard and it gets expensive and itgets yeah, and then punish, you
know, you want to punish theother person like you're so mad. Well,
well, I heard that you're doingChristian cavalry's divorce. No, no,
no, I've said I was justspeaking about it. Yeah, people
were asking me about about her andand Jay that you know her X.
I mean they did things pretty amicablyand you know, what was interesting about
that one was that I think hegot a lot of parenting time despite the
fact that they had young kids.Yeah, I thought that was that was
a little unusual. He wanted fiftyparent tea time and I think one of
the issues in their marriage was kindof the way he treated her, or,
according to her, mistreated her.And so but she was okay,
fifty parenting time. But she's somebodywho may be very, very focused on
her career and and you know,he's retired from football, and so maybe
okay. You know, I say, before I let you go, I
want to say that something good aboutdivorce. I is that? I think?
Well, I know my ex husbandbecame a better dad because he was
forced. He wanted fifty cussidy andthen your forced to spend that. So
you're not forced. Yes, thatwas my one positive takeaway. He's so
much more involved. You know,he's become a great dad during, during,
because we got a divorce and heonly has them half the time.
So yeah, I mean that likethat's my that's the silver lining for me.
The men are forced to do it, you know, it's and and
they have to learn on the kidsback because there's a big learning curve and
in the beginning, however long ittakes, everybody's differ print, but in
the beginning we screw it up allthe time. So, but I'm glad
to hear that he seems to havegotten it right over the years. Yes,
and is there for your boys,and that's that's the most you can
ask for it. Well, thankyou so much for being with us today.
I hope, thank you've learned alot of things, because I think
that you're going to be very busyvery soon. Thank you so much for
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