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On this episode of On the Rocks we talk with E networks Mathis Family Matters reality TV personal Gregory Mathis Jr who came to spill the tea in reality TV as we chat about coming out, his career in politics, how life has changed from being in front of the camera, maintain a successful relationship while in the media, advocacy for the LGBTQ community, wearing shorts to a politician's office, and more!...with host Alexander Rodriguez. Raise a glass and join in the chat, it's On the Rocks!

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Hello on the rockers. On thisweek's episode, it's Gregory Mathis, junior
entrepreneur, a longtime political advocate,currently appearing on e networks. Mathis family
matters, featuring the lives of TV'sjudge. Mathis is bigger than life.
Family. Greg is here to spillthe tea in reality. Get it with
me, your favorite host with aSassy most, raise a glass and let
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is on the rocks with Alexander,where I drink with your favorite celebrities as
you talk about fashion, entertainment,pop culture, reality TV and well,
that's about it. So Popa corn, lean back and raise a glass.
On the rocks. Lord have mercy, buttons and bows and Panty Hose.
On the rocks, podcast, theplace where we're too glad to give a
damn Um. All right, youknow I love some reality TV. Well,
I have something very wholesome for you. Wholesome on this show, I
know. UH, please welcome GregMathis Jr, born in Detroit, made
his way to Washington d C,where his career in politics includes several years
as a senior advisor in the USstate Senate Um, as well as previous
work for two members of the UnitedStates House of Representatives and the president of
the United States. During his timethere, he worked directly to advance several
key initiatives that he is passionate about, including funding for the national suicide prevention
hotline, increasing direct mental health andgeneral healthcare and support services to lgbt q
individuals and authorizing the nation's first nationalprogram to better identify victims of human trafficking
in the healthcare settings. Most recently, he is now imagining managing his family's
various talent and business endeavors, hisreal estate businesses and engaging in lgbtq advocacy.
He can be alongside his entire familyand his partner. And there are
two dogs so cute on e thatworks. Mathis family matters on Sunday nights,
featuring the family of TV's judge Mathis. This now? This is reality
TV at its most positive. Notetable flipping, no backstabbing, just good
family time with side of Fass.Please welcome Gregory Mathis Jr. Hello,
I'm going. Hello, Sir,I'm glad you moved to l a just
for you to go to New Yorkto do this interview. Good planning?
Um, no, but it's veryfunny right. Yeah, before we start,
I have a question for you.Yes, Um, what are the
ground routs for the interview? BecauseI did I know this is the drinking
show, so I drink a littlebit. I want to make sure I
don't see anything too bad. Youknow, you can say whatever you want,
literally whatever you want. Everything goesUm nudity if it's appropriate. I
don't know your your PR REP isgonna have a heart attack, but,
as any funny a big part ofthe story of of the first season,
the debut season of Mathis family matters. Is, how public do I want
my life to be? And hereyou are, hot off the heels of
the Today Show with your dad,major press tour that has not stopped,
not to mention now a major networkshow every week. What have you loved
the most about the spotlight and whathave been some of your biggest challenges now
being center stage? Yeah, Um, I have enjoyed the most people who
have genuinely been Um, I'll say, who genuinely been touched or inspired by
just seeing me live my life,I um, and it surprises me almost
every single time I get messages tomy inbox on Instagram just about people who
are saying, uh, that Ihelped them and their journey by being public
with Elliott on the show. Andyou know my coming are coming out journey.
I was actually just a dinner witha buddy of mine who went to
Michigan Undergrad with me, and hewas telling me his younger brother just came
out and he was like, ourentire family started watching the show because we
were trying to figure out how todeal with this and and your show has
helped us in that way. Sothat's been the best part, is just
know one that it is making anactual difference. And, Um, the
hardest part has been having the spotlightonly because, Um, I mean look,
none of us are perfect, andso it's a little scary when you
know if you, you know,say something, tweets something, you do,
have all these people looking up toyou and looking at to you as
an example, and so it's pressuredto not want to say the wrong thing
or not want to let folks downwho may be looking to you for some
sort of guidance or some you know, as a role model. Quite frankly,
well, and that really there's there'sthat added pressure. It's like now
you can't, like you and Elliott, can't go out and be grumpy at
a restaurant or getting a fight.You can't, you know, go to
the clubs in West Hollywood and getting, you know, messy. You can't
bring a go go boy home.I don't know if you're going to do
that, but there's like all thisdifference. Is just like and now you
are a spokesperson for the black community, for the LGBTQ community, and it's
like wow, it's like kind ofyou, we can still do all of
those things. It might just endup on the front page of papers.
Well, yes, that is definitelytrue. Now I want to know what
inspired you to go into the politicalarena rather than okay, you know,
I'm gonna be a lawyer, I'mgonna be a judge, or I'm gonna
get on TV. Why Politics?I think it was a product of the
way I grew up. I meanmy dad was in politics from a young
age. Also, he ran uma lot of political campaigns when I was
growing up and so I was aroundit. But also I um when I
was really young. I went toDetroit public schools up until about the age
of up into sixth grade, andthen we moved out and went to suburban
schools and I can remember even atthat age I saw the difference in the
school districts. I saw the resourcesthat were so desparate between like the suburban
and well funded schools and the innercity schools, and it didn't make sense
to me then and I knew whatthe people who looked like. They went
to those different school districts as well, and so I always kind of had
an eye for wanting to figure outhow I could help other people, and
that was like my first example.I'm like, well, wait a minute,
like what can I do when Istopped going to the inner city schools
and went to suburban schools to helpthe kids that they're still going to these
inner city schools? And so Ialways had a little bit of a passion
that just want to help people andthat really is the reason I started in
politics and uh yeah, so itwas a passionate on deeper then, I
would say, and that's what Ilove about seeing the show. You know,
all of you have had successes inyour own way. Very affluent family.
Of course you know Uh Bell Airand the versace and all that,
but there's there's this groundness to thefamily in terms of ideals and and what
you want from life, and it'sit's very refreshing to see on TV.
Um Now, when you went awayto University of Michigan, was that your
first kind of time away from thefamily and on your own? Oh Wow,
it was actually yeah, I umfor an extended period. You know,
I actually had a great opportunity whenI was in high school to go
on the people to people trip forabout a month and that was the longest
I've ever been away from my familybefore then. But Um, going off
to college was the first time Iwas that far because my parents had moved
to Los Angeles by that point actually, so they weren't even you know,
we originally grew up in Michigan,but by that point I went to Undergrad,
they were out all the way outin California. So that was my
first time being all along. Thatmust have been an adjustment from having,
you know, this this crowd aroundyou, so to speak, and it's
like okay, now you are onyour own, you're your own person.
Let's see what you got and thenyou kind of feeling out what your voices
and who you really are. Didyou get into Shenanigan's Um? Of course
I did, a college. Whodidn't, you know? But and I
actually ended up having a pretty bigfriend group there, I think because I
was raised such a big, closeknit family. Um, that was one
of the first things I saw itout when I was in Undergrad, is
wanting to find a close knit friendscircle, and thank God us successfully did
that and most of the people Imet their freshman year I'm still friends with
to this very day. Um.That's one of the guys I was just
telling you. I lovet dinner wasactually here in New York. I got
to catch up with one of mybuddies from Undergrad. Well, and you
were in a Frat. Yes,yes, I was. Now we know
from stereotypes that frats can be verybrowy. Um. How are you dealing
with that kind of atmosphere and alsodealing with your sexuality at that point?
I love that question because one thingthat I did is Um, I did
not. I never lived in theFrat House. I lived in an apartment.
Actually, if you know the Universityof Michigan, there's kind of a
few campuses. There's a north campusand the central campus, and I was
actually dating someone the majority of timeI was in Undergrad and nobody knew.
Um. He actually ended up joiningthe same fraternity as me about a year
after me and we kind of passedoff that way. But we were roommates
on north campus, kind of awayfrom everybody else, so we were able
to separate our lives to a certainextent when everyone else was Um, you
know, and nobody really had aclue the entire time I was an Undergrad.
Well, it's funny. Part ofthe show is you, you know,
making the public announcement that you uh, that you are gay with your
partner, who was also kind ofnot in the closet but not really out
and about it as well. Now, when did you, though, in
your personal life, know for yourself? Um, I know because I grew
up in very conservative Orange County,conservative religious background, very conservative Mexican family.
Being gay wasn't even a term thatI even knew. I didn't know
what these feelings were. At whatpoint in your life did you kind of
realize hey, these are gay feelingsand I'm a gay man, just for
yourself, not to anybody else,oh, I mean I knew when I
was five years old, wow,like from a very young age. I
knew that Um, like as soonas I probably started to I wanted thing.
was around five. I can't putan exact dage on it, but
I just remember being Um and Ithink it was, you know, just
horsing around or whatever the case was, and I remember being attracted to a
guy and I remember thinking at thatyoung age, I was like, oh
no, this is bad, thisis wrong. I can't tell anybody about
this. You know, I'm notsupposed to be doing this because at that
point, I mean, I wouldhave been teased and bullied like crazy if
I had ever expressed those feelings atthat age. And, Um, I
talked about this on the show alittle bit, but I actually went to,
uh, you know, the churchI went to at the time.
The pastor would speak frequently about howpeople who were homosexual were, you know,
it was against what the Bible taughtand that, you know, we
were going the hill and it wasabomination. And I actually would go home
after church frequently and I would tryand pray not to be gay. And
I'll say this since this is theevening show. I used to actually Um,
at a certain age when I startedwatching and you know, adult films
and porn. I would watch intentionally. I would watch porn. They didn't
even have guys in it. Iwould try and watch my girl and girl
porn just to see if I wasinterested, if I was aroused, because
that's how much I wanted to notbe gay. I was like, well,
maybe if I watched this I won'tbe gay. And it's it's almost
like you were doing your own conversiontherapy. And my worst nightmare is a
girl on girl porn and nothing else. By the way, that's my worst
nightmare, is girl on girl onlyporn, and it's like nothing else.
It's like no, Click next,next, Um, and I just say
my worst nightmare. But it didnot work for me. Clearly. Clearly,
not to say when I when Ifound out about the show. You
know, I'm a huge fan ofyour dad's show, Um, and I
found out, and you know Ithe headline was, you know, his
gay son. It really took meaback and I don't know why. And
other people that I told, Hey, I'm interviewing greg today and he's from
the Mathis family matters, and I'mlike, Oh, you know he came
out. Uh, there is justlike Oh really, there's the shock and
I'm like why are we so shocked? And I guess it's because we have
the assumption that homophobia in the blackcommunity is still very prevalent and, Um,
it is a big deal to comeout in a black family, in
a black community. Um, howhas your culture kind of affected your relationship
with your sexuality and do you thinkuh, walls are coming down between minority
groups? You know, I'm notgoing to sit here and think I can
paint like a broad brush for howour entire community feels, but I can't
speak from personal experience, which isthat to me. Um, you know,
the way I was raised, theBlack Church was very important to me.
It was the anchor of our family, the anchor of many of our
communities, and I know even withElliott and his journey, Um, it
was similar from that aspect and beingraised in the south it was even amplified
for him to a certain extent because, um, I mean in the south
even more than where I was raisedin Michigan. It's like you get raised,
you kind of go off to collegeand you you know, once you
leave high school you can kind ofexpected like, okay, who's the girl?
When are you getting married? You'reexpecting bringing home a wife and having
a family pretty soon after you graduatehigh school and if you you know if
you're not going to college or ifyou are going to college pretty soon after
that. And so I just knowwhen talking to him, there with that
added pressure and I think and alot of Um from my personal experience in
the black community, you know thatis a reality. People want to know
who you're bringing home, when areyou having children, and you get those
questions and it's amplified in the closeknit church community and you know there's obviously
still those strong feelings and a lotof churches that this is a sin and
there is something wrong with homosexuality.So I would say in my experience has
been that mixture of black families wantingtheir relatives to have a family, to
have a strong black family as well, and then the fact that we are
so rooted and the Church, whichI'm doing, which I continue to be
Um. You know, I goto church every Sunday. I you know
I'm very strong in my faith,but I just have a different interpretation than
I think a lot of other peoplemight. Now, how have you bounced
that because I was deeply entrenched inin my religion and, Um, I've
lost my faith. I'm not religiousand I know that that's uh, that's
a typical story of gay men thathave dealt with religion. So how do
you kind of couple the religious aspectwith your sexuality? How have you evercome
that kind of division? I mean, yeah, for me it's more of
a question that I know I can'tallow big it's to push me away from
my faith. You know, atthe end of the day, this is
the way. I didn't create whoI am, even though I love who
I am. You know, Godcreated me this way and so I know
that to be true and I knowI didn't choose this for myself. Um,
and who am I to question theway God made me? And so
to me it's always been more ofa reflection on the people who are judging
me and their misinterpretation of Christianity thanit is on myself. And you know
who I am. Um. Ithink there's a lot of things that the
Bible says, a lot of thingsthat are written in there that we don't
necessarily interpret to the word of itwas otherwise. I think society and even
the church will look a lot differently. And so Um, that's always been
my uhum approaches that. I knowI have to develop my own relationship with
God and you know, that's what'smost important to me, not necessarily what
someone else is telling me. Ishouldn't believe when it comes to my face.
It was very interesting to me.You know, I'm I'm a so
cowboy, I'm an L A boy, for you know, that's just who
I am and we're kind of ina bubble where we think equality is getting
so much better and seeing the show, seeing you so young, so affluent,
so educated, with the support ofYour Dad, with your family,
that you yourself were the most reticentin kind of making this public statement,
I'm like, wow, that's reallyan indication as to what's really going on
in the nation and how certain LGBTQ individuals have the self imposed kind of
Um, not shame, but likethere is a fear in coming out,
and I wanted to know from you. Do you think that was propagated by
your time in politics as well?So I think I will say this.
I feel like now that I've madethe step, that I put myself out
there, I'm living authentically. Um, I was probably more afraid then I
should have been because, Um,I would tell you the response to us
coming down has been overwhelmingly, Imean ninety eight percent positive. There's been
in the part that hasn't been positiveor just the majority of like faceless Internet
trolls. Always, I can say, you know, what do they want
to say to people? And sothe response has been overwhelmingly positive. I
think what took me so long totake that step is really just dealing with
the trauma that I didn't even knowI had from growing up being told for
so long that there was something wrongwith me, that the way I was
living was wrong. That, Um, I think it was more of me
having to unpack all of that traumato get to a place where I was
comfortable enough with myself. Then,Um, that made me feel like there
was so much of a burden onmy back when it came to the rest
of society. Well, and westill we know what. Look what's happening
in the nation that politics, eveneven our supporters, it still can be
a very homophobic environment, especially inWashington D C, especially in the White
House. No matter what side you'reon, we know homophobia. It's just
row back our marriage rights potentially,and you know, it hurts me so
much to see what's happening in ourschools, to to these youths, because
we know that, I mean thedata is clear that when you're in that
that when you're in your youth andyou're being told you're being rejected quite frankly,
and told that there's something wrong withyou, you're not allowed to talk
about being gay, there isn't thatsupport for you. We know that.
That makes it more likely, unfortunately, the LGBTQ will suffer from depression.
May you know, Um die bysuicide or have a suicide attempt, and
you know it. I hate tosee that so many folks that are pushing
this rhetoric are doing it to protectchildren. One of the reality is doing
the exact opposite. I think andtalk in my experience talking with the Gen
Z ears and the folks to affterally. I mean they're probably the most progressive
and open minded generation we've had ina very long time. But it's the
folks who are kind of older thanthem and the generations above us who are
really pushing back and trying to Umtake away so much of the progress that
we have made because I agree withyou. I think we've made a lot
of progress, but there are stillelements of our society that are unhappy with
that progress and are working very,very hard to push it back. I
want to go back to your successin the in the political realm. You
started off super young. You werean intern, then you worked yourself up
to staff assistant. Your first jobwas for us Rep Jesse Jackson Jr.
Um, do you remember your firstday as an intern? It's like your
first step into an actual political office. What did you wear? What was
going on? It was so bad. Um, a little, a little
bad. I remember I was internin Jesse Jackson JR's office and my first
day I was so excited. Um, if you all have ever been to
D C in the middle of thesummer, it is piping hot and that's
when all the interns from the DC. So I'm thinking, you know,
I'm gonna put on this great outfit. I'm thinking I'm looking great, I'm
so excited for my first day andUm, I mean it just shows how
naive I was at that time.I should have known better, but I
put on, you know, somenice shoes and I put on a nice
pair of what I think of NiceKhaki shorts with a nice Polo because they
said we didn't have to wear asuit that day. But we're, you
know, we're casual. So I'mthinking, you know, Khaki shorts,
a Nice Polo, shirts, casual. Uh. I walked into the office
and I've gotten so I've gotten somuch of the first thing to say is,
why are you? Were in shortsin the office and my face just
dropped in I was so embarrassed.Um, it ended up being a great
intern experience, but that always standsout to me because here I am walking
in bright eye, bushy tailed onmy first day as an intern and that's
literally the first story I have.And they said you're lucky to cheap staffs
not here get you would have sentyou right home. But I'm gonna literally
stated we done everywhere shorts in theoffice. Well, Hey, your your
career certainly worked. What is oneof your favorite political moments that happened during
your political career? So my favoritemoment was I was actually on the Senate
floor the night that Um John McCainor right office in it for the night
that John McCain voted to Um votedno on repealing the affordable care act.
Um, I did a lot ofdomestic policy issues and health care all in
my portfolio when I was working inthe in the United States Senate, and
that was a really special moment because, Um, I mean we fought so
hard for that. I worked onPresident Obama's re election campaign in Ohio.
Um, that was probably one ofmy other best moments of the night that
we won Ohio. That was thelast time the democratic parties won Ohio,
unfortunately, but that was but thatwas a special moment. You know,
we thought that the bill was gonnaget gutted. We were, you know,
we had all types of emergency plansin place for what the heck we
were gonna do when all these peoplelost access to their healthcare coverage. I
mean it really would have decimated folksin a way that I don't think we
could imagine the fact of just havingyour healthcare ripped out from under you like
that. And so that was definitelyone of the best nights because it was
so unexpected. We thought the lawwas gone for sure, and John McCain
came in there and rest is sosaved the day, and I mean we
party like it was you were yourbarn in. I don't know. You
want to know how. I knowI was born because I remember when it
uh, you remember? Why?Two? K? Yes, yes,
I do. I remember me andmy brother. We were, I would
have been ten years old at thattime, looking up at the sky thinking
the world was gone, and thenwhen the class stuck midnight and we saw
the plane still flying, like okay, I guess things are okay. Um.
Now, why did you leave politics? You know, working as entrenched
as you were? Um, whydid you leave that? And would you
ever run for office? What Irun for office? I would never say
never to anything, Um, andI mean I wouldn't necessarily necessarily say I've
left politics completely. I mean Idefinitely still take my advocacy very seriously.
Um, but you know, Ithink everything has a season and I'm excited
for what is gonna be next forme. I'M gonna be able to really
have an impact in a different way, both in my advocacy from the LGBTQ
perspective, but I'm excited to getthe work with my family on some projects.
Um, you know, obviously wehave mathis family matters only, but
also my dad has a production companyand I'm working with him on some projects
that I think, Um, youknow, I'll bring a unique perspective to
with my back around, both inthe LGBTQ space, but also having a
background in politics and my brother asone as well. So I think,
Um, I'm really excited for theopportunity to work with my family but also
to have an impact in a differentway. I love that so much.
Um, you know, I havesuch a love hate relationship with labels.
I can see how it helps akid out in the middle of nowhere,
with the city, with you know, and no other gay people, um,
but I also see the other side, such as, I have to
say, most of the headlines aboutyou and the show included your sexuality as
part of the headline. Many ofthe media questions what we're talking about right
now, Um, are that youand your dad have answered on the show,
are about your coming out. Doesthat get, and I don't mean
this in a negative way, butdoes it get a little tiring, like
yeah, I'm gay, yes,that that's one piece of all this,
but I'm all of this. MMHMM. So No, I love that
question because, and I'm not gonnasay it's tiring, because one of the
reasons I did want to do thisshow is because I know that putting myself
out there in that particular way willhelp people and save a lot of lives.
I think, Um, you know, even from the feedback I've heard
in conversations I've had, I knowit's really helping people to know, to
see my story. I mean,representation is important and I know how valuable
it would have been to me growingup and on my journey to see someone
like me on television, someone thatwas living their lifeu authentically, someone that
was open about their struggles with theirsexuality and how difficult it was to get
to this point and how I'm stilla work in progress. So I do
appreciate the questions on that front.But to your point, and I talked
about this on an interview, Um, I think it was when I was
on daily pop of it back butI said, you know, now that
that process is done, I'm excitedto just get to living my life and,
you know, not having to kindof revisit that constantly. It's like,
okay, I've come out of thefalls now, you know, in
season two, season three, futureseasons of Mathis family matters. What I'm
excited for the world to see is, yeah, you know I'm gay,
but there's so much more than methan that. Like I talked about before,
I'm gonna you know, I'm workingon projects with my dad now and
we're gonna have exciting things that we'redoing. I mean, uh, you
know my family. It is morethan just being a he's an engineer and
has an entire great career, andso I am really looking forward to people
to get to see those different layersand get to know me in a different
wave. And to your point,just you know, the gay son of
Judge Greg Mathis just to spill alittle tea on on my side. You
know the show. You know I'myourrors, like the you know, like
the baby whatever, or you know, everybody loves Um. And then you
kind of stole the show. Ihave to say that's just from my point
of you don't have to say anythingabout it, but I was like,
oh, we see, we seewhere the show is focused on. Okay,
we see you stealing the spotlight.Um, do you know what I
am looking forward to most in seasontwo? Getting to know? No,
let me think, it's not asdeep as you think. It's seen more
of Elliott's biceps. Girl, thoseguns, boom, boom from you.
Now, I come from the realityTV world that I love housewives and I
tend to like the drama, thetrashier side of reality TV. Binge.
Watching this the way that I've beenable to Um. Like I said at
the beginning of the show, there'sno backstabbing, there's no family drama that's
tearing you guys down. The dramais not really drama. It's like showing
Um kind of the successes that you'reworking through and the obstacles that we all
have to deal with and how youcome through that as a family. It's
so refreshing. Um. But whatmade you say yes to a reality show?
Because it's not just saying yes toa reality show, it's saying yes
it's changed your life, like fromwhere you're living to everything. So what
made you say yes? And also, why do we need a show like
Mathis family matters on TV right now? Yeah, so my younger brother,
a mirror is um. You know, he's an executive producer. He worked
for he worked on Steve Harvey's talkshow for a while. It's a number
of other productions Um, and hecame to our family with this concept.
Uh, I can't remember exactly howlong ago, but let's say, you
know, a few years ago,and at first we were super reluctant to
do with. Everybody was like no, like, we're not putting our lives
out there like that. But hecame with a unique perspective of like,
look, we have a super closeknit family, like, we had a
lot of fun together, we loveeach other, and he ultimately convinced us
that we had something to offer theworld that was different than what we do
see on team, and he soldus on that. Quite frankly, I
think from my dad's perspective, andhe talks about this a lot, he
was probably one of the most reluctantto want to do this and he just
said that, Um, he eventuallysaid yes because everybody else finally got on
board and he, Um, he, he said, I didn't think he
was gonna be able to do it, because the mere went out and sold
the show and kind of made ithappen all on his own. And so,
Um, that is the genuine wayof which this came together. It
was partially, you know, amerror being able to convince us that this
was something that would be positive.It really gives us an opportunity to Um,
you know, just showcase a positivefamily. I'M NOT gonna say we're
perfect, because we're not. We'vegot our issues that we worked through.
We have things that we, youknow, go back and forth on,
and I think that's healthy for theworld to see also. But that was
the big point, I think thatgot most of us, is that we
just had something to offer that wasslightly different than what you see on a
lot of reality TV shows. UH, for sure. Um, okay,
quickly, Um, you and Elliotthad been together for six plus years,
not just with the struggles of beinga gay couple and then publicly coming out.
Now it's all on camera and nowyou're on this media to our all
eyes are on you. What kindof tips can you give, because covid
was a testing time for a lotof relationships. It really was, um,
and so I want your tips asa couple how to maintain a healthy
relationship for as long as you haveand also dealing with the outside pressures of
the world. How you are workingthrough that successfully. Yeah, so ours
really came down to being able tocommunicate, and when I say that,
it's not just, you know,US telling each other how we feel about
things, but really communicating in away that we're talking but also listening to
what the other person trying to sayand making sure we understand it and that
we're being attentive to it. Imean it's it's so communication but also compromised.
Um, and I mean Elliot andI are both open about this.
It's like we haven't had the easiestroad. It's been sixty years, but
there were years when we were lookingat each other like I don't know if
we're gonna make it through this year, and we really had to do the
work to get to where we aretoday. Um, and that included a
couple of therapy that we did.I think that was maybe a year three
and four of our relationship where wedid pretty intense couples therapy and through that
process we got to the point ofbeing able to communicate with each other understanding
what the other need it from.You know what he needed from me and
when I needed from him and andwhen you can figure that out and you're
willing to compromise and you can meetin the middle and uh, really communicate
in a way that's healthy and nottoxic. Um, I think that has
been our key to a long relationshipbecause look, we're all different, we
all have our once knees desires andwe all get annoyed, we all get
irritated, we have good days baddays, and so for us it's really
been about how do we take careof each other, how do we communicate
with each other, how do wecommunicate when we're not in the best place
and how do we ask for help? And that's really been the Lynch Pan
of us, as is being ableto support each other and rely on each
other and just have that healthy communication. Well, and every relationship, whether
it's with your family, whether it'swith your best friend, whether it's with
your partner love or whatever, there'salways ups and downs. What I love
is how your relationship was presented.You know, I think a lot of
times we always see gay couples,whether it's a scripted or reality TV,
we see the hyper version of whatthis relationship is or hyper version of this
drama, and we see the relationshipjust as a regular, normal relationship,
which it is, and so it'srefreshing to see this kind of it's it's
part of the fabric that makes upthis whole family. Yeah, and I'm
really looking forward to sharing more ofthat with the world. I mean,
I'm not gonna lie, it feels, you know, it can feel in
Basi at that time and it requiresdefinitely a lot of vulnerability. Um,
but I think it's important in theshow because you don't see a lot of
that, particularly when it comes toUm same sex relationships. You know,
seeing a lot of just what wetry and put forth, which is ourselves.
You know, we're not trying toput on in a certain way.
We Um try and be as openas we can and as honest as we
can and authentic as we can,and I think that's important for folks to
see. One thing I can sayabout the Mathis family. It seems like
you guys are only drinking Margarita's allthe time. What's with Margarita? The
Night I got Tequila Soda. Well, it's still it's like a Margar Vena
light, but it's like it's like, damn, I want to hang out
with that. Someone told one ofus that Tequila is the healthiest liquor to
drink. It is. It's stuck. Yeah, it is healthy. This
tastes good, so that the problemis I think some of my family members
didn't understand that Tequila is not sohealthy. When you dump a bunch of
sugar and make it a Margarita.That's why I try and with my Tequila
Sodas, but every now and thenI'll treat my Solfa for the Margarita,
like there's another Margar Vita. Um, okay. Finally, uh, do
you and Elliott Watch reality TV?If so, what shows are are you
watching? M Hm Um, soright now we watched the housewives Eventley,
and I love that. That's oneof my favorites. WE DO WATCH MARY
to medicine. That's another one thatwe enjoy. Um. What else?
We Love the love and marriage seriesby Carlo is king, especially the one
in D C, because we spentyou know, we used to live in
decit. We've got a special attachmentto that. Um. What else do
we watch in reality? I mean, I'm I'll just throw it out there.
I'm definitely a Kardashian O G andI know that's a guilty pleasure,
so I still I still keep upwith the Kardashians every day and I use
that as it like a thing.It's like you guys are the exact opposite
of the Kardashians. It's like that'sa goodness. Still got the booties,
though. You'd like to see thingsthat are a little different from you.
You know, the only thing youguys share with the Kardashians are those booties.
It's like pooty buddy, booty,booty left. Well, but never
mind. I think I know we'regonna say. All right, Greg,
give us your real housewife Atlanta tagline. Oh Um M hmm. Don't let
this cute face fool you. That'sit. There's no punchline. I'm I'm
so bad at I love it.I love it so much. Thank you.
Thank you so much for spending timewith us. The finale, yeah,
the finale of Matthews family matters isis coming up, but you can
binge watch all the episodes, Um, like I did, and it was,
it was. It was such ajoy. Where do you want people
to find you and follow you?So I am Greg Matthews Jr, just
Greg Matthews Jr, across all ofmy social media platforms. I'm on Instagram,
twitter, most fun on Tiktok,I think, and so check me
out. Oh, just real fast, your your PR REP is gonna kill
me. I got so many questions. Uh, the same kind of question
sent to me in different ways.Um, how have your D M s
changed since you've been on TV andthey're talking about you? Guys are probably
getting naughty. DM S, Imean them, have been, Um,
positive. They've been like thank youfor sharing your story. It's really helped
me. It's been along that vein. But there are UH, there.
There's a good portion that. I'mlike, do you all not see that?
I'm in a full, long relationship, like you are not sees?
You asked man. That will takeyou to town if you say the wrong
thing. But I love it.It's like I just I'll leave those under
it because you you know, thankGod on Instagram you can see them.
Yeah, you know, those arejust delete or scroll right by them.
I love it too. It's like, Oh, I didn't get your message.
Yes, I didn't. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so
much. I hope to see youroaming around L A. we'll grab a
Margarita and UH and uh for EverybodyWatch Mathis family matters. I love it.
Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. That has been
our chat with Gregory Mathis Jr Um. It's always a grab bag of fun
here and on the rocks. Bigthank you to our fabulous guest Um.
Also coming up next week we havetwo time Tony Award winner Judy Kay is
here. Five decade get that,five decade career. She's appeared in Phantom,
wicked, Cinderella, Mommy MEA andmore. So, until next time,
stay happy, stay healthy, staysexy more importantly, stay tipsy.
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