Straw media. Welcome back to another
episode of behind the shadows. I'm your

host, Harvegie and a cruse,
the show where we talk about all things

shadows, all the episodes, all
the time, with the talent, prove

and celebrity guests. Today's guest is
a noop decide. Now we fall in

love with that genie face, but
have we seen that face on television on

another show? And also we asked
the genie what their wishes would be.

Even it's so whelming, heart bizarre
has so tell me you, why would

anyone want to be alive, deaf
my hair reputation before she arrives? But

Trust me, we have way more
fun in the after life. We have

way more fun. All right,
thanks for joining us today. I'm really,

really, really really excited for today's
guests. It's the one and only

a noope decide. Hi, fank
you for having me. Yeah, thanks

for thanks for having me. This
is exciting. I'm really excited. Um,

already this season people are talking about
your character, the gene or is

everyone mispronounces the genie. Do you
think that's really common? People mispronounced the

right way to say Jeane. Well, you know what, even even my

wife who knows the name of my
character. I think it's because of Cavan's

accent. It sounds like you know, like you you kind of have to

like put it in the context of
the action. But yeah, I think.

I mean that's where it comes from, right, that's where I don't

know. Yeah, Gene Genie,
or is it spelled like? It sounds

like genie, but it's only pronounced
gene like, I know, like in

Japanese, like what you spell,
like what you at this, like this

is spelled d e s U,
but you don't say that. You at

the end to see, right.
Yeah, so I wonder if that's kind

of like a yeah, I don't
know what we're gonna call them. The

gene I called the genie, as
you know, either or, I think.

What what would you like to be
called? I think I think.

I think the gym, the gene. That works. That works right.

Well, I was really excited to
have you um this season on the show.

It's been so fun. What was
your audition process, uh, to

to get this role? You know, I was just actually because I knew

I was going to talk to you
today. I was just kind of looking

back at that because at this point
it was almost a year ago. That

that the audition process started for it, and I think when I when I

got the initial appointment, initial audition, I think it was, it was

two episodes. Um. It was
basically the conversation that we'll see in in

episode three, Um, where they're
where they're kind of negotiating, Um,

about Nandor's wish to have a larger
member Um. And so it was.

It was that and I did it
with my wife. We were at home

in Brooklyn. Um. And then
I didn't I didn't hear back for like

a month almost, and then by
the time I got the offer, and

you know, they hit up to
I think, four episodes and then by

the time we were, I think
in the second month of shooting, it

was like six, seven, whatever
it is now. So it just feels

like it's it went from zero to
sixty really quick. Yeah, because I

remember you were there and you weren't
sure of like, I think I'm gonna

stay long. They're asking if I
can stay longer, and so that's a

good sign. That means that you
know, as everyone knows, things shift

in television at the time. So
sometimes the scripts aren't finished, sometimes the

storylines changing, and so we were
really excited to find out that you were

staying for pretty much the whole season, pretty pretty much the whole thing.

Because I'm in New York, they
would always fly me back and forth to

Toronto. Right it's like an hour
flight Um, and so that was that

was great that I got to spend
some time at home in the midst of

everything, but it was also a
little jarring because it would be like,

all right, we're you know,
we're back on this second block, we're

flying you went for three days,
fly home for two days. We're gonna

fly you back for a week,
fly home for you know. So it

was it was very kind of like
I'm here, I'm there, but it

was such a fun experience, and
I mean like it was. It was

the best. I had such a
great time. It was so fun.

And then too, you know,
the episode that we just saw is titled

the Lamp Um, and tell us
about this. Well, this episode is

where we meet my character, the
gin Um, the gene Um, and

it was uh, you know,
it's it's kind of I feel like my

character in the introduction is very you
know, you kind of see him,

you you hear him, you're not
really sure what his motivations are. You

know, he shows up because Nandor
has found this ancient lamp and in his

ancestral homeland that he brings back to
Stanton, the Staten Island, and you

know, of course guerremo states the
obvious. Why don't you try rubbing it

the opposite way? Uh, and
I pop out of the lamp Um,

and this is the first time you
see my character. So I think it's

a really important episode for me,
a really dear episode for me, because

I get to set the stage for
WHO this guy will be for the rest

of the season. Um, and
I gotta just you know I was given

the guidance I was given when I
auditioned was essentially he's an accountant, you

know, he's dry, he's droll, and I just immediately, when I

auditioned for this, grabbed a pair
of glasses and I had like a pen,

like a quickie pen, and I
don't know why those two things just

kind of stood out to me but
um, luckily, props and and you

know what, was able to get
me those two things, and that's that's

really a big part of his identity
and you begin to kind of see those

and how they how they play into
the character in this episode. Yeah,

and they really do go so well
with the choices, you mean for the

character where, like I see the
chain and in your body posture reflects how

you carry yourself with the glasses are
always a little bit a jar over so

you don't need them to read up
close. Like when you're talking to someone,

you kind of sometimes go over these. So it's kind of like perfect

the mannerisms. And as an actor, you know, when we see a

fellow actor like the choices that make
like Oh, that's cool, like yeah,

I didn't think about that. That's
really kind of that's clever, or

when he makes the wish come true
and that, you know, with the

little pen click. I had done
that and then I first I think it

was because this was the um the
lamp was actually the second episode I shot.

I think I shot. We shot
episode five before this Um. So

that was, you know, I
came in with those choices and then I

think kyle was directing Um the the
other episode and I think I took my

glasses off for a second for for
for one scene, and he was like

what, just just leave him like
that the entire time. So that that

has been you know, that.
That's what the character is, that he

never takes him off, he never
actually looks through him, like I never

actually looked through him. They're just
always here. Yeah, and every every

time, you know, a director
would call action, I'd have to do

like, you know, because I
can't keep them there the whole time on

just on my face, just resting
there. So I would have to take

him off and put him back on. It was yeah, but I mean

that, that's that's who he is. It's just I I liken him to

you know, he's that. He's
that guy that like maybe he is working

for you, like you're paying someone
to do something, but you're still like

you don't want to bother him.
You know what I mean? Who're yeah,

you're like, Oh, I'm sorry, could can I can just ask

me like a good question. I
think a lot of actors, actors,

can relate to that. All our
friends who don't want to bother their agents,

you know, and they're like I
didn't want to bother them, and

I was like what, that's that's
exactly it. That's exactly yeah, you're

an agent, Yoah, and it
just like it just make the whole posture

change, like your whole like attitude
change because, I mean, obviously you're

an actress, so people would confuse
sometimes when they see the person who portrays

this character and they're not walking or
talking or you know, or Manneris like.

I know I get that with like
Dietimo, where like people are like

wow, you're like not quiet and
shy. You know, it's like yeah,

that's the character. Um. But
with your it's so funny just from

like day one and just being thrown
into this group of like, you know,

actors who pretty much stick to,
you know, the group core of

like the five, and have people
visit and whatnot. How did that feel

to be like thrown in there and
like which, by the way, you

just like held your own and just
like played ball and you're like let's do

it. How was that experience?
I I appreciate you saying that. Yeah,

I mean it was. It was
a lot of I think it was.

It was a lot of pressure,
especially that first day, um,

that and that first block that we
did. You know, I had read

before I came onto set. You
know, I tried to do my research

as much as I could about I'm
a fan of the show, but just

about the like culture on set.
You know that people doing interviews like this

and I was just I was a
little unsure about like, all right,

I know Harvey and Cavan and you
know, there they have their leeway,

right, like you guys have earned
your your leeway and your ability to improvised

with each other, and that is, you know, that comes from weeks

and months and multiple seasons of working
together and knowing the beats and knowing each

other's personalities in each other's characters,
all that kind of stuff. Um.

So I think coming into it the
first day, it was a lot of

pressure, Um, and I think
I you know, I asked one of

the directors. I was I think
it was I think kyle was directing the

episode that I'm remembering right now,
but, you know, and I just

kind of went up to and I
was like hey, man, if if

any of this is like too much, just like tell me that it's shut

up. You know. And because, because that that was the fear,

I think that the way it turned
out was the opposite of that, is

that this was the warmest, you
know, set I have ever been on

and not it's it's rare. As
a guest too, I feel like,

all right, not only am I
you know, doing this job and contributions

in my like energy and like what
I see for the character is being honored

by those that are in charge.
Um Jana, kyle t and the other

characters that I'm that I'm working with
the other actors and I'm working with that's

I mean, it's just the best
feeling in the world to walk into that

tight knit community that you know,
you guys have built and you guys have

earned and still feel like, oh, there's a room for me, there's

a room for what I have to
stay through this character. Um, this

character is, is here for a
reason and that's to add something and so

to have the freedom to add that
it is you know, it seems it

might you know, for people listening
and watching, it might seem like,

oh, that's a given, like
why else would you be there? But

it's a really rare thing in this
industry to actually be able to do that

on set when the cameras are rolling. And then, you know, of

course, for for our funzies take
uh, actually actually have the ability to

like contribute and to be a part
of it. Now, people might not

know this, but we have a
thing on set that has now I'm I'm

proud to announce uh, kind of
traveled and and transfer to other sets,

Um, where we say funzies.
And so we'll always do the scripted version

which, by the way, the
scripts are amazing the way they are,

but we have the freedom on this
set that we are encouraged to improvise,

which makes it very nice for the
actor to feel comfortable to, you know,

own their space in the character and
and breathe and connect with the other

characters. And we call it funzies. So people listening and watching, that's

what we call the take where it's
like the one that we got everything,

we got what we needed. We
know we have it in the CAN.

Let's have fun, let's have a
Funzie. So we go funzies, uh,

and you just get to play and
I would say that, Um,

you know people like in the creative
team, like Jimaine and Paul. In

the past I said that. You
know, in the editing it's fifty that

ends up being scripted and Funzies,
which is the improvised version, which is

nice because that's what the final product
is and people love it. So for

you listening, funzies, if you're
here, see funzies. That's what we're

referring to we have, but also
working in Toronto. Wasn't your first time

in Toronto. It was my first
time in Toronto. Yeah, and I

got to I mean it was lovely
because I got to go through I felt

like three seasons and three months there. When when I when I first when

we started the first block of filming
in in September, I guess it was,

you know, it was like late
summer. You know, I was

like, Oh my God, I
have to I had a Sweatshir and I

had to take it off. By
the end I brought up my down jacket,

you know, for the for the
last little bit that we were there.

I mean it was it got it
got freezing, but I love the

city. It was it's such a
great city, I think, especially coming

from New York. But I remember
we got to hang out and it was

so funny because my friend Um,
who's from Toronto, who we're going somewhere

and I forgot. We're all in
then Uber together and we're heading over and

and he kept u like he kept
asking me. He's like, I feel

like I know a nuke from somewhere. I was like, Oh, maybe

you met him before, and he's
like no, no, and he kept

putting together and then at one point
in the ride he just says out loud,

wait a new were you an American
idol? Do you remember this?

I do, and I wasn't.
It was Zack. I think I had

such like a like. It was
great memory, great memory, great memory.

I was. I was shocked because
shout out to like, yeah,

shout out. That was pretty funny. Yeah, but that's the funny.

What talks about your experience. I
mean people who might not be familiar with

that. But you weren't working out. You have an amazing singing voice,

like people might not know this.
Weetn't. We didn't get to utilize it

that much, you know, singing
wise, but people may not know this.

Tell us about that. Well,
yeah, I mean that was that

was really how I got into the
entertainment industry. Um, I was I

was actually doing, in the middle
of doing this, ket my master's degree

and I just graduated college at the
University of North Carolina. Um, and

I kind of on a dare like
some you know, some friends, and

that we were all going to disper
parts of the country. We said,

let's let's go audition. So we, you know, we hopped the flight

to Kansas City. We auditioned for
this and then, for for me,

it's really it's just kind of a
story of the experience, just like snowballing,

like it just kept going and kept
going and kept going. Um,

and at the end of it all, like, you know, I finished,

I guess sixth or or or uh
six or seventh, I really don't

remember. And I think, yeah, yeah, that rings a Bell Um.

And and then, you know,
I mean it just kind of went

from there, like I I you
know, decided that right, I'm gonna

be in the music industry. Now
that came with a whole you know,

set of expectations, of course,
coming off of that show. The show

is a blessing, but you know, it comes with a its own expectation.

Um. So then I started making
music under the pseudonym totem for for

years, and Um, I was
doing a lot of writing. I was

that was, you know, traveling
the world. I was writing Kay pop,

I was writing in Sweden. I
was right, you know. and

Um, at a certain point I
just kind of missed the camaraderie of of

being in a play, you know, like being being on set, because

that's something that I had done when
I was in, you know, when

I was younger, in middle school
and high school, Um, and you

know, I've I've got certain opportunities
to auditions for things and you know it,

and it just kind of like,
I will say, my experience in

the music industry was really, really
formative and really, I mean that's that's

that's where I grew up. You
know, I entered into that industry when

I was twenty one on this like
giant, giant, giant stage, Um,

the the biggest stage I think the
television maybe has ever had in terms

of something like that. Oh,
yeah, it's the PIC of like that's

once you do that, it's like
you've, you know, in its own

way, made it, because it's
like wow, I mean to just make

it into that show, that grueling
process of auditioning, and how many people

for that show year after year after
year, and don't make it, too

even to get on, you know, the final, you know ten or

the final twenty even. Yeah,
I mean more more talented, you know,

people than I didn't make it.
You know that, that that I

was in the thing with. So
it's it's just, well, I mean

you know, it's it's a reality
show, right, so it has that

behind it, but I do still
count myself very, very lucky and very

grateful and and the whole experience was
was a blast. I mean I still,

you know, those people are are
still friends of mine and and you

know, we still keep up with
each other and everything. So it's it

was, I mean it was.
It was just a like funny trip.

Like, you know, I hadn't
experienced at some point that you're you're on

the stage, you're in the in
the green room or whatever and like Oh,

like stevie wonder just, you know, like walks in and you know

we're like performing with Stevie wonder,
we're like getting a personal tour of motown

from Barry Gordy and Smoky Robinson.
Like it's it's like those experiences still like

I kind of can't you know.
It almost seems like a memory. Yeah,

do you think that? You're sometimes
your memory is like is that real,

like did that happened? Like sometimes
I yeah, sometimes you can't wrap

yourself around this idea or a memory
of like did that really happen or what

did I just in my head?
Was that a wish that I was making?

And then like what, that happened? Right like that really did happen.

The the only way that I know
that it happened is that, you

know, you know, sometimes when
you're remembering a dream, you'll you'll be

like, oh, yeah, that
happened, but when you go back in

your memory, like you can see
yourself right like if you're remembering a dream,

oftentimes you see or self in the
dream and that's how you know that

it wasn't real because, like,
you could never have been at like watching

it from that perspective where you're in
it. Um, that's the only way

that I know that this was real
is I do have a very like first

person like memory of it. There's
footage of it and and there's there's some

there's there's some footage, there's some
photos that, you know, it's a

it's a moment, you know,
captured in time, and it's what it

is. It's in that moment and
it's what it is. It's just a

very public growing yeah, yeah,
we have. But also, well,

going back to this episode of the
Lamp Um, what was it like,

you know, being on set for
the first time ever? You've obviously,

Um, do your research. You
saw the show. Were you a fan

of the show before? I was
a huge fan of the show, huge

show, and I am a huge
fan of the show. So, like,

it was helpful knowing that, you
know, especially, as you mentioned

earlier, like the report that you
guys have um it. You know,

it comes across immediately on on the
screen. I think that's that's one of

the reasons that that shadows is so
beloved by so many people. Is like

it is all about the relationships.
It's it's all about the the interpersonal you

know, you can you can say, yeah, have the show about vampires

and they're, you know, trying
to take over whatever, more than there

are a couple of blocks of state
in island. But the show is really

about a family, and so I
think having, you know, it more

or less seen the home videos for
for for three seasons, it helped me

to know what this is about.
You know, you also have to balance

the fact that I'm not, you
know, my character is not supposed to

know what this is about. I'm
still figuring it out. Right, as

as the gene, I'm still figuring
out. All right, who who are

these, you know, people I'm
working for? Do I like him?

Do I not? Um? But
you know, just having been a fan

of the show and helped the mentally. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

What was your favorite set? So, since you were a fan of

the show, I can't imagine what
it's like to walk into where you've recognized,

hey, that's that's their bedroom,
that's Nandoor's bedroom, that's what year

most sleeves, that's the fantasy room. What was that like and what's what

room is your favorite? I think
Nandor's room is my favorite. I mean

I did a lot, I spent
we spent a lot of time in that

room. So it became one of
those things where, you know, I

got the level of comfort where the
set became props and and the and the

props became, you know, mine, you know like that. That's and

I think that's why I have such
a such an affection for that room.

Um, I will say the the
club. What will become the club?

I didn't spend a lot of time
in that room. Um, but that

in the Chamber of cure reosity is
on set. Are are sort of well

they I mean in the show too, they're they're they're attached. And so

to see to see the chamber of
curiosities with the stuff on the wall and

just the like immaculate set decoration and
all of the work that goes into that

and all of the you know,
I mean that I was, I was,

I was blown away. I was
blown away by that even first yea,

and yeah, yeah, and and
Shane where. I mean, you

know, even just when the you
know, when we when we see the

House uh for the first time this
season, right, it's obviously fallen into

disrepair and you kind of can get
away with thinking, if you're watching it,

that it's like, oh, they
just they just strew up. You

know, there's there's just a bunch
of stuff strewn around, right, and

just the level of detail that goes
into all of that like, quote unquote

mess is. I mean, I
still can't get over it. It was

so amazing. It's there's no mistake
in those sets where everything has been like

thought through thoroughly, even the mural
out over the fireplace with the original three

from the movie. Um, and
if you look closely and the bottom of

that there's a little mural that's handpainted. It's on the on the banister of

the fireplace. That's you know,
tons of little things all over it.

But if you look close to there's
a vampire with pink hair, which is

kate bunch, which is the original
designer for that room, and it's that

picture. It's a little Easter eggs. If you look closely, you might

find kate bunch in the rubble of
like really beautiful artifacts. That that that's

a yeah, I feel like there's
there's so many of those where you you

know if you're not, the camera
goes by so quickly, right and and

because of and because of the way
that, you know, how we shoot

is set up, it is,
it isn't you know? We we don't

have a bunch of setups like and
meaning like. We don't. We don't

change the positions of the cameras several
times to get the same shot. We

might change them once or twice,
but that is like much less than most

shows do, and because of that
it's it's you. You can kind of

lose those intricate details that I'm so
happy every time someone tells me something like

that. Yeah, I love that. I mean, I've been on this

set for, you know, not
going on into the fifth year, and

I'll always find something new, I'll
always find something. I could be in

the fancy room and during in between
takes I'll just go through the desk and

I'll just like pull stuff out and
like there's been times where I've literally pulled

out like uh, Disneyland, you
know, map from and I was like

what, how did this get here? And I was like there's a story

there. The vampires want to like, you know, I don't know,

like maybe it was a night,
you know, version of Disney or Grad

now, you know, because you
can stay at Disney and all night or

something. Did they go on like
some kind of like, you know,

excursion? There's always like a story
and every little piece that you see on

the show and that's what the love
of our set and that's credit to the

main see team that we have.
Um, you know, Shane, and

just killed it. Yeah, every
time. But okay, so you play

the genie in the show, but
if you had your own genie, maybe

we're not so many wishes. Not. So let's say we go with the

traditional way of never says three wishes. What would three wishes? Yeah,

what would what are those three wishes
be? Geez, one of those three

wishes, Um, one of those
three wishes would be too come back to

this show for for, for,
for, for another season. I mean

that that would definitely be. That
would definitely be one of my wishes.

That's so great, I think.
I think another wish is that I had

never had to spend August in New
York, in New York City ever again.

It's the hottest place in the world. Um, Oh man, and

then, and then, and I
don't really know. Um, yeah,

this, you know, this is
why people get into trouble, because because

they don't think their wishes. I
know this is good, although I would

say I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
I don't know if I would waste your

second wish on that, because if
you say out of New York in August,

this is what you would do.
The character of the show would be

like okay, and then they put
you like somewhere even worse, like,

you know, like you didn't say
where we put the Sahara desert or something,

and you're like no, you didn't
say where, and it's like no,

shrimn more details. But it's true. People don't think about their wishes

and that's okay. Um. So
online people have been talking about the character

uh and, and people were saying
he has like he has a secret that

we don't know, almost like you
know when you go to meet like a

car salesman or something. It's like, I'm not telling you the truth,

which is kind of what the genie
is not doing with, you know,

Nander, telling him about the wishes
and how you can get in trouble.

What is his back story that you've
given the genie? What is like this,

you know, entity that's been around
for so long? What kind of

like, you know, stories do
they have? You know, it's really

because I feel like through through the
course of our funzies, takes Um at

the end, which no one is
ever gonna see. Uh, that like

I feel like I I developed that
because we, I would always those takes

were always, I feel like me
talking about like, well, I've been

in this lamp for, you know, however many thousands of years, like

what do you expect me to do? So I my my backstory. I

don't know how I came to be, like I think it's a it's kind

of a big bang situation as far
as how how I came to be.

But but I know that I'm thousands
of years old. I've been doing this

for all that time. I came
out of lamp fully formed, so to

speak, and that's why I'm just
like look at these videots, like what?

Like, all right, I've seen
this before. I like, I

I know who you are. I
know you're gonna I know you're gonna mess

it up, man, I know
you're gonna mess it up. And that's

that's like how I get my racks
off, is by by Pele me sing

it up like that. It makes
me, you know, five hundred thousands

of thousand years in between when I'm
summoning and makes it like all worth it,

because I'm just kind of sitting there
on on my like pile of gold

and sand, just waiting for someone
to summon me so I can kind of

ruin their lives. You know what
I love about the way you play the

genius that he always looks like he's
like he said, like you're bothering him,

like he's busy with something else,
like he's doing something when you called

him and you're bothering him, and
it's like the thought of like what were

you doing that, like I bothered
you, but he never shows like he's

like is that what you want?
You know, the way you play him

is like, okay, what is
it that you want? Okay, because

it sounds like he's always he caught
him in the middle of something, which

makes you think, what is he
doing in the left that's so time consuming

that it's taken you know, he
has he's had a thousand years off and

then he has, you know,
comes back to and it's like what do

you want? It's just like this
person must really like their alone time,

because they literally are so annoyed when
they get some instances. So well,

there there was this funny conversation I
think I was having with Yana, which

another one of one of the directors
and Um and, you know, I

think I think, I think it
was sorry, and we were talking about

like wouldn't it be funny, because
I think the great thing about shadow too,

is there's so many like cross pop
culture references right, like it's it's

a vampire show, but like how
much of the characters really know about the

world as it exists in and then, you know, but I think we

we had a conversation about wouldn't be
funny if he's just like finished watching something

like he did, you know,
every every every time he gets some and

he just kind of like through osmos
is just gets to the technology of of

the day, like wherever he is
so he goes back into the lamp,

where he goes wherever he is,
and he's just like watching like five,

you know, five seasons of Gilmore
Girls, just like back to back to

back. Remember he was right in
his solitude. Um, that's so funny.

Well, this year we see the
Naja has opened up her own nightclub

and it's Najas UH. If you
were to have your own signature drink,

as the gene or genie, what
would that be, and what would what

the ingredients would be? It's,
it's just makers on the rocks. It's,

it's it's just like it's a neat. It's on the rocks to set

right. Okay, on the rocks, yeah, because because you know,

it's you know, he needs he
needs to be cooled off to some degree.

But Um, yeah, like not
Fussy, not anything. It's just

kind of like a listen, I'll
sit here and like listen to you,

like, but we're not. I'm
not going to be your friend at the

end of the time. I just
I want to I want to system for

getting this into me and then I'm
gonna leave. I'm not really one for

clubs. Like it's it's it's that
kind of energy I came in for a

drink, I got my drink,
I am leaving. He would be like

that. He he has no that's
what I'm talking about, like he has

no time to waste, but all
the time in the world. It's it's

really and you know, as I
got to do a lot of like one

on one stuff with Cavan, especially
throughout the course of the season, I

feel like I hope that people like
will be kind of surprised and kind of

pleased with how the gene develops and
and and and their relationship and also his

relationship with with the animal, because
I feel like once, once, Um,

once, Cavan and I kind of
built out like all right, what

do the what? What does this
relationship look like? It made it made

our relationship that much more clear in
the spectrum of things, and you know

that you definitely hit the nail on
the head. It's like I don't have

time, but I have all the
time in the world. But at the

time, you know, at the
point that you are you know I'm I'm

I'm coming, I'm and I'm doing
these these wishes for fernandoor over and over

and over again. There is a
little bit of an affection and an affinity

that that kind of grows, you
know, in my in my cold dead

heart. So I I hope that, you know, people will will enjoy

watching that kind of evolution as well. I love that. That's so great

and, you know, yeah,
I wish for that wish too. I

want the genie to definitely come back. If the gene were to come back,

what storyline would you like to see? What's an idea that you've been

thinking? That'd be cool. I
kind of like the idea that now,

now that I've fulfilled whatever I need
to fulfill, you know, Fernandoor and,

and we will see over the course
of the season how that how that

works out. Um, I like
the idea of, you know him kind

of thinking, all right, well, I do actually have a section for

these people. I do have an
affinity for these people. What if I

just like lived out here now right
and and got to experience all of the

things that I don't get to because
I'm always going back in the lamp like

that? That that idea about.
Like what if the Rosmos is I just

like have all the technolog gene,
you know, of of the day,

like I can, you know,
from Staten Island. I can picture the

gene, you know, going on
a like getting on the B train and

going to coney island, you know, and and and like like figuring out

like Oh, like wow, this
is this is the world, you know,

like going on just like a hop
on, hop off bus of like

New York City, like having having
the experience of like not serving anyone and

being a tourist, I think would
be I just see that as something that

the gene like has deserved and also
something that could be like super, super

funny, because I'm still, you
know, I'm still dry. It's like

I could see, you know,
one of the wonders of the world and

still be like well, that's that's
nice. Why didn't they finish it?

Like that's you know, that makes
sense. Yeah, you critiquing everyone,

like Oh, that's a wonder.
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's fantastic.

Well, thanks so much for joining
us. This has been an absolute

delight. I'm excited for of course, I'm sorry everyone, to see the

trajectory of the gene, the genie
this season, because it leads up to

a very nice moment and it's lovely
to have you join us, uh,

this season. Lovely to have you
join us on the show and if you

want to tell anything to the fans
who have quickly become genie fans, what

do you want to tell them?
I'm I'm just, you know, I'm

just so happy that that that you
know people are a fan of this character.

It's I it's such a fun character
to play and it's such a fun

show to be on. I would
just say if if you're a fan of

this character, a fan of this
show, Um, it's in. All

your love is being put into the
right place, because this is an amazing

show and an amazing group of people, an amazing set and everyone involved with

it is you know, I my
my heart is with all of y'all.

So I just appreciate it and we
love you for saying that, because we

love you. And where can people
check out your music or follow you on

socials? Yeah, so, on
music, just spotify, if the type

and totem t o t e m
Um, and on instagram and all that

kind of stuff. I'm totem sound
so t o t e M S O

U N D perfect well, with
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