Hey, there you all. This
is Lisan Boskia, the founder of shaping

freedom, and first of all I
am going to welcome myself back. It

has been a little bit since I
recorded a podcast episode. I have been

knee deep in a bunch of other
really exciting projects, but I really missed

this that I missed you all,
and some really excited to be back and

particularly excited to introduce to you my
next guest. She is the founder of

equilibrium by Cynthia. This woman emanates
joy and happiness and centeredness and I met

her over instagram. Actually, she's
local to San Diego as well, but

somehow another, we found each other
on instagram. Cynthia is a yoga teacher,

she's a light worker and a healer, and the conversation that we had

was a conversation really about diving into
your soul, taking a look at your

soul, confronting the things that stand
in the way of our joy, and

also what you do when you find
yourself self in a place of being,

in that dark night of the soul, those times that send you into the

fetal position on your floor where you
are wondering what you're going to do and

how you're going to move forward,
and Cynthia and I had a chat about

that, during which she shared her
own journey. There's so much to get

out of this interview and I am
really excited for you to be able to

experience it, and so, without
further ADO, here is my conversation with

Cynthia. So, good morning,
Cynthia. I am so excited to share

a few minutes here this morning with
Cynthia Delaney. Cynthia and I do not

know each other or this is the
first conversation that we're having, and we

are also instagram buddies, and so
it's funny how you can have conversation with

people on social media and connect and
feel as if you know each other or

that at least you've started the conversation. Some really excited to put a face

to the name and anyway, yeah, and a voice to the words.

Cynthia and I were chat being a
couple of moments ago about the fact that

she is just back from her annual
yoga retreat. Soul Song, is that

the name of it? Yeah,
Soul Song, you treat that's right.

Yeah, so maybe why don't you
introduce yourself to the audience and let them

know a little bit about what happens
during some yeah, love to thank you,

lissn. It's such a pleasure to
be here. Thank you for inviting

me. You're welcome US speak with
you and to meet you. And Yeah,

I said in our pre recorded conversation
that I just love what you're doing

and your work is very much kind
of like the same thing that I'm doing,

from a different perspective, I think, because we both begin with that.

The minute you stop being the victim
of your life and you take charge

of your life, that's when things
are going to change, right. So

absolutely. Yeah. So I really
appreciate what you're doing and love to talk

to you and love to talk in
general about just the journey of the soul,

right. I mean that is why
we're all here. We're here it's

it's not a dress, that's rehearsal
right, we're here to really learn and

grow. And so my work as
an entrepreneur and, you know, Yoga

teacher, spiritual healer, I do
meditation and I teach and talk about the

soul, the journey of the soul. So, anyway, I lead extended

retreat in Colorado, which is four
days and it's a small, exclusive one

that takes place usually every September.
It's a beautiful time there and it's about

transition time, and so we just
got back and it was a weekend of

everybody coming there was looking for some
fresh perspective, you know, because we're

all just changing. Things are changing, and also it seems like everybody's at

a transition point right now, I
mean after covid and everything. So just

to allow that time to get out
of your usual groove and to get everybody

there on eighty five acres of beautiful
sage brush snuggled right against the Old San

Juan Mountains, and there's nothing.
I go wow, the music in those

mountains gets you singing your song,
let me tell you. So we had

an adventure and you know, it's
a good balance between activities and meditation,

and that's why I named my business
equilibrium, because it is about balance,

right, I mean. So that's
basically my joy, to just help us,

you know, help women find that
wholeness and that balance within themselves through

the spiritual practices. Really that's mainly
my focus. So yeah, I love

that you're leading that and, as
you know, I am a huge supporter

of helping people to really stand in
their skin, to stand fully in their

lives and to do that from a
place of empowerment and from a place of

full receptivity of the person that we
that you are, the person that you're

created to be. So I love
like you are certainly singing my song,

my sins right here, you know, because you know life is it's a

challenge and it is this beautiful journey
that ebbs and flows and their dips and

you know that happened along the way. And the importance of finding time to

resonate with your soul, the Self
K you know, you're really the true

selfcare, which is ensuring that you're
connecting in spiritually, is the thing that

helps the rest of the year go
differently, you know, and lighter.

So I really am happy to hear
that you're doing that work. Thank you.

Yeah, and you know it takes
court, it takes courage and it

does take just self inquiry, right. I mean you have to be willing

to go there. I know for
the longest time I wasn't willing to go

there. I was just living that
autopilot life, you know, easy,

breezy, and really in some ways
that works for you, because then you

don't put any pressure on yourself and
things just sort of come you know,

and it's like yeah, I know, I think you're feeling it, but

it's like, you know, you
wind up pushing everything into a closet and

living like in one percent, if
you were capacitory that stuff down in that

pat door's box, until one day
it busts out on you. Yeah,

I know, that was my experience. So, at any rate, I

I do find that when I take
that time and I go inward really and

connecting with that. And you know, the place that I found that first

was on my Yoga Mat and,
of course, you know, through church

and everything. I mean I've always
been a soul seeker and, you know,

trying to find meaning, a greater
meaning. So as it turned out,

you know, I had a blow
back. Oh and when this all

began, this spiritual awakening for me, which you know, is a journey,

when you look back, you've really
been doing it all your life.

You've been accepting and seeing different aspects
of yourself. But the big turning point

for me was in what year was
that? Two Thousand and fourteen, our

daughter, my husband and I have
one child, and she went off to

college and she wanted to go to
college in England because she wanted to be

an English professor and you know,
when you have one kid you want them

to have it all right. So
she went off to England and it was

just really devastating having her that far
away. And also, you know,

just that you realize that when you're
married to someone, just when that other

person isn't around and what's left between
you two? Right? So yeah,

me and my husband, we ended
up deciding to split up. We were

apart for about eighteen months with the
intention of divorce, you know, just

letting it settle, trying to just
create our new lives wherever we were at

that point. And it was just
the first time that I was ever alone,

really alone in my with myself,
because, you know, I'm I'm

kind of out there. I'm a
outgoing person. I have an extroverse,

extrovert personality, but being alone was
scary for me. So that is when

I was so lonely, so afraid, and I just started doing yoga all

the time, like every day,
and stay just once a week, you

know, and I started taking this
beautiful class with this woman named Marie and

she just opened me up to so
much more the depth of my own being

that it was only found when I
was being quiet and silent and breathing.

And then, of course, praying
was always important. I started meditating and

finding that comfort and just the spaciousness
that it brought me, and the mm

just as well, of my own
wisdom that I had all along that I

didn't know it, you know,
because sometimes we can let others take care

of things for us, right,
and whether or not we agree with it,

we just it's easier that way not
to take charge. So so,

anyway, that was the unfolding of
it all, and the blessing of it

was I started the yoga training.
I didn't even want to or think about

teaching or doing anything. Up until
that point I'd been the professional mother and

volunteer and you know, in my
church I was very active as a euchroustic

minister and leader of Youth Group and
prayer partners and all kinds of stuff.

So anyway, I was busy.
But anyway I started with this idea,

well, I'm going to do this
yoga training just for personal transformation, and

I found out, guess what,
I'm a good teacher, I'm methodical,

I'm a virgo, so I know
how to get times day to yeah,

Burgers, we're in that, the
vergobotment. It's beautiful. The high expression

of Virgo is good. So sometimes
I got a tame down that lower but

wow, get out. Yeah.
So, anyway, get into the long

story. Short. Started that path. Realize, Oh my God, this

is so damn good I have to
share this. So in my home I

have a big, beautiful backyard.
I said, let's do yoga. We

put in a yoga studio just in
an old play room that's got this open

loft area. So anyway, I
invited, you know, just some of

my friends to come and that's how
equilibrium by Cynthia was born, because the

balance that it brought me, those
spiritual practices was just a life changing and

through that transformation, this one thing
led to another, as it does,

you know, and Lo and behold, my husband and I we got back

together. We are happier than we've
ever been and we needed that time apart

to grow, each one of us
individually, and now it's just been the

mission for my soul to continue that
growth and also just share. That what

I understand about it now, just
like you're doing this son. Yeah,

I love that story. And so
what were what were the major things that

you learned while on that Matt,
during that those eighteen months? Such a

great question. I learned how reactive
I was to the external I learned how

the compass was actually from within,
not what I was seeing outside of myself,

and I also learned that I do
love my husband. I did love

him, even though I was so
mad at him I could just taken his

little beautiful neck and just done something
bad. Yeah, might have. With

the point is, when you have
that time to figure things out and that

space and that just moment to close
your eyes and drop in there, and

you know what stuff comes up and
you got to deal with it. The

fact that I'm not proud of a
lot of the ways and the things I

used to do, you know.
But what are you going to do about

it? You're going to rectify,
you're going to make those apologies, you're

going to go out and try to, you know, make good on that,

and then you're gonna teach others how
not to do the stupid things that

you did by just taking time for
themselves. Right. So did you find?

Did you find that the was the
key for you, spending time with

yourself so that you could explore was
that the the catalyst to write the relationship

with yourself and the relationship that you
were able to refuel, I guess,

with your husband. Yeah, that
is a beautiful way of putting it.

Empowering Myself, and you know,
I'm naturally a happy person. I know

sometimes people don't like to hear that, but I just I always was that

way. I just I don't have
you know, I have not been depressed,

thank God. I've never been like
just in that except for that.

During that time I was in that
place of despair and I thought for the

first time, oh my God,
how do people wake up every day like

this? I mean I grew my
compassion when I myself was knocked off of

my usual you know, joy train
or whatever you want to call it,

which, yeah, included a lot
of avoidance probably, and things like that.

But I've really been just like that
dolphin, just going with the flow.

Whatever was expected of me, whatever
was going to happen, I let

it happen and I shaped it a
little bit here and there. Went to

college, got a job as a
flight attendant. Loved that job, love

flying, traveling, meeting people and
but all, at the end of the

day, all I was doing was
having fun. I wasn't doing anything meaningful,

and then when I became a mother, that was a whole nother thing.

You're in that mode, as you
know you have children, of just

taking care of business right, taking
care of business, trying to do there

the right thing, the best thing
for everybody, and then when they go

bye bye, it's like wow,
what am I working with here? Who

Am I and what have I been
doing? So I think it was that

awareness of taking responsibility. I remember, I remember it clearly. I was

on the bottom of a hose on
the floor and my closet, my husband

had just come I was away and
my parents house and he had just come

back and taken all of his clothes
out of our closet that we share and

it was empty and I went in
there and was something. I'm still kind

of emotional about it. It was
the first time I was like, oh

my he's really gone, this is
really happening. I went down on my

knees crying and I just put my
head down and I just said I can't,

I can't be alone, I just
can't be alone. And I swear

a voice inside me said yes,
you can and you will and you're going

to do this, and that was
when I was just like, yeah,

I've got to learn how to be
alone, and that's what I do.

So it's takes some kinds of crisis, of Little Dark Knight of the soul

right to spur us into action.
But what I found out is that I

absolutely had everything I needed all along, and I'm so glad. You know,

two things that you said that I
want to point out. One is

I to have, for the most
part throughout my life, been a pretty

I'm a pretty optimistic person. Yeah, and I try really actively to see

the positive in things, because I
come from a belief system that says you

get to choose what you're going to
take from a situation, and so you

can either take the story that paints
you as a victim or as someone to

whom horrible things happen and that ten
people are terrible doing the horrible things,

or you can look at it and
see a what are you learning from that

situation? Who are you in that
situation? Because that's really the thing,

like that's the thing, like a
person can do anything or we encounter unpleasant

things, or potentially unpleasant things all
the time, and the real question and

the question that matters and where we
have influence is who we are in that

situation and what we do. And
so I'm sorry, I'm kind of like

digressing because I have like fiftyzero thoughts
at one time. Point I'm making is

that sometimes, when, and I
think a lot of folks are today feeling

anxious or depressed or feeling sadder than
they are accustomed to feeling, and sometimes

it's not this horrible pit that you're
in. You're actually on your journey to

something else and that journey sometimes feels
uncomfortable. It's just like learning a new

pose in Yoga. where, yeah, where you you know? I'll tell

you for myself. I throughout the
pandemic. I was one of those put

on covid weight people and I did
not do a lot of work and I

did a lot of working. And
so when I first got back on my

that I went to do as simple
oppose as downward facing dog, and I

got to tell you, my arms
were like, what the actual heck are

you just? You can't do and
you did it, but I did it

right. And so you can take
those moments, those few seconds, are

those few minutes of your day and
call those the make that the star of

your story, or you can understand
that it's actually taking you someplace else,

because had you not experienced that discomfort, had you not felt the way that

you felt and had the thoughts that
you had, you it would have been

very difficult for you to get to
where you are today, having gotten to

the other side of this. And
I said absolutely truth. And you know

what, I recognize that and and
I'm so, so blessed by and with,

you know, all of the help
that I've had, I mean my

teachers. I attend a metaphysical school
that has just totally transformed the way that

I view life itself and anyway,
I'm so grateful for all the support and

the help that I've had. And
really we cannot do it alone. We

just can't see because we need those
mentors and those people who, in that

moment when you're down on your knees, they have that little ladder and you

can just see it up there and
you're need to grab onto that run you

know they're waiting for you up there
right absolutely, and I totally resonate with

what you said about it being like
just taken at one step at a day

at a time, and absolutely daily
practices transform you. That is my mantra.

Absolutely, it is the total transformation. You have to do a little

bit, not a lot, just
a little bit every day and you're going

to stay in your group. I
believe that's true. That's true every for

you. Yeah, thank you.
That's true of everything in life. It's

true even of growing a plant.
You know, you get a plan,

you don't douse it with a little
bit of water and walk in the next

day and have the thing you know
towering over you. So long to learn

that and I killed everything I ever
had when I was younger. It takes

time. It takes time and I
think that sometimes we are we see people

who are smiling and who have gone
through the journey and who have established,

you know, their entrepreneurial endeavors or
whatever the things are that we do on

our during our journey, and I
think sometimes people miss the fact that it

is a journey and it takes time
and you don't learn all the things in

one second. No, and you
know what it takes, perseverance and discipline

and to attain anything, especially to
master your lower self, your ego.

You're the parts of you that are
so ingrained that you believe that they're you.

But then you realize, man,
that's not really cool that I do

that or I think that way or
I mean and and during this past oh

man, covid for everybody, what
an eye open her into our own the

wallpaper of our minds. Right,
absolutely totally crazy stuff came up. For

me, yeah, like wow,
I never even felt that I saw things

that way. I've been just really
doing some deep soul searching with along with

the rest of the planet. After
what two thousand and twenty, that's January,

two thousand and twenty some yeah,
turning point? Well, yes,

and I think it absolutely has felt
like and seemed like a huge turning point.

And I don't I think that for
those of us who are in the

service, in the work of service, I think it's also very important that

we recognize that it's not over.
No, it's not over. Are Of

this. This is a and what
I what I meet, just to clarify

what I mean by that statement that
it's not over, is that's so so

many of us were, I think
things are changing today, and so many

of us were ways to just kind
of pick ourselves up by a bootstraps and

keep it going and to walk through
sometimes really challenging situations. Just shake it

off, put on a little bit
of lipstick or, you know, put

your tie on or whatever the things
are that you do in the persona of

your daytoday life, to just do
those things and keep it trucking. And

what I'm observing is more and more
people who are struggling to get back on

their feet, whatever that looks like, but to get back to their center,

because the truth of the matter is
is that no matter what side of

the political fence of personal is on, it doesn't matter. No matter what

side of the, you know,
racism fence a person is on does not

really matter in this conversation or the
public health situation, whatever side of the

fence VACs not fat whatever. Yeah, the truth of the matter is that

every single one of us have experienced
something happening in our world that is so

different from anything that we've ever experienced
before, and we may be a little

better prepared should something like this happen
again at some point in some other way,

but this we've never experienced and it's
really important, especially, I believe,

for us as people who are in
service to the soul and to the

spirit, that we recognize that and
help people to understand that what you're feeling

doesn't mean that your life is shitty. It means that we are getting to

a point in this process where the
survival mechanisms are starting to maybe dissipate a

little bit and once you get to
the other side of a survival point,

you have to turn or your called
to now face some of the other things

that we're going on that perhaps you
could not deal with at the time.

Very similar, if you don't mind
me saying, share the experience that you

had where it's like you're raising kids
and you don't have, I mean you

have some time to think about things
that are going on. I had a

similar experience where I was raising children
with my ex husband and that takes a

lot of energy in time and you
know, working home and children and all

of that, and then there comes
a point when some of that gets pulled

away. You know, they get
older or whatever, and they got a

high school, but they go to
high school whatever, and then they got

high so they don't want to talk
to you exactly, and then said they're

not talking to me. I guess, Hey, who are you? Who

Am I? Who are you that? So I just I'm saying that and

sharing that, just to say for
folks who are maybe feeling a little off

their axel right now. So it's
perfectly understandable, it is and we all

have our role. Right like me, I'm let's just say, you know,

I resonate with all of the activism
people on the streets. My daughter

is in Brooklyn, New York,
big time out there for all of the

causes that means something to her,
the things that were awakened, the racism,

the inequality, all the issues of
equity. I guess what. I

value that so much and she's good
at that, but I'm not good at

being loud and getting out there with
that voice, you know. But I

feel like I can help spread that
compassion, that love through other ways,

you know, with writing. I
do newsletter where it's inspirational, you know

what we're going through at the time. I Post a lot on Instagram,

just daily things that will bring me
joy. Joy as kind of like my

pulse point, because you've got to
find it. If you don't have that,

and you can find it even in
that dark place. There's something in

there that you can be grateful for
and and celebrate. So anyway, I

feel like, you know, for
me. Anyway, I see people doing

their part and it's just working,
I think. To get us all on

that, you know, we are
not staying the same or not going back

and it's time to shift things.
What can I do to heal myself further

that I can heal others? It's
and also just be part of the the

transition into this new, better place, and we are getting there, we

are going. It's just, yeah, it takes time. First everything has

to break down, right, it's
on. It's like everything has to break

down in order to build it back
up. As evidence of my life,

basically. So, but that's just
I mean, that's just another analogy for

what happens in the world and I
think if you take any experience that's happening,

you can apply it to either the
broader context, the collective, or

you can apply it to yourself.
You know, if you seglect to plant,

it's going to die. If you
overwater it, if you hover,

if you you know, don't allow
the plant to grow and do go through

the process that it's meant to go
through, you're going to to Turre its

growth or even smother it. You
know, you know, and every situation

is really the same. It comes
down to those same very basic principles of

the way that life begins, the
way that it grows, you know,

and then the way that completes at
the end. And so goodnuation that the

world is in same thing, you
know, and it needs as much light

and sun and Water and air and
space as it can possibly get, you

know. And I think the joy. Hell, yeah, joy. And

I hear a lot of people that
are like, I don't know, you

can't just be happy all the time. Really, why is it so much

better to be miserable all the time? You know, a lot of people

ask me that, like do you
wake up like this? And I must

talk about that. Yeah, I
kind of do, because I set that

intention for myself, because I know
that my ability to rise above all of

the hard struggles, I mean just
even the thing that's been weighing on my

heart heavily is those fires up in
the sequoias. Those trees are millions of

years old, I think thousands at
least, and you know, when you

think about just how a fire can
just so quickly distruct but then you think,

okay, this is a cycle.
Yet we burn and we're reborn and

we learn how to not you know, take unnecessary risks and just do it

better next time. But anyway,
what I was going to say was a

point about just this healing that takes
place for all of us. It doesn't

mean there's anything really that wrong with
you, it's just you want to be

closer to your real self. And
guess what, when you come in without

attitude, without judgment and everything,
you have so much to be grateful for

every day. That's why I'm happy. The other day, I just look

at it like, you know what, I get to do this today,

I and even if it's something terrible, like I get to, you know,

be exhausted or I get to be
whatever I'm feeling. I don't know

what I'm trying to say there,
but basically, happy is a choice that

you make every single day, and
I know you do it too, and

it's easier for some people, and
I think a lot of it too for

me was that I was always that
kind of sense, a sensitive person who

is observant, and when you're observing
you're in the moment, you're in that

present moment awareness where that's where everything
is happening, that's where the joy lives.

Basically, right you're not thinking about
tomorrow. You're not looking in the

past. So it's easier to be
happy when you're in that present moment.

Yeah, and I think it's in
and I know, I don't think,

I know for sure, that it's
also that the decision to be happens in

our minds. And so we live
in a society that is learning that being

in a state of anger and repression
and frustration is actually not a healthy way

for us to move forward. And
I come from the East Coast, where

sometimes people can be here like a
little, you know, fiery. Me

Too. I'm pay where are you? Yeah, from Brooklyn. I'm a

really good playing yes, yes,
love it over there. And I recognize

that there are some people who say
again, like the world is terrible,

how could you be happier, you
know, as if being miserable helps or

as if being joyful means that you
are out of touch with reality. And

when you really do take a look
at what happens in your body and in

your mind, when you're living in
the date of misery and the damage that

it does to every part of you, it is all about energy. You

hit it right there. You hit
it. Make a different choice, make

a different choice, try a different
choice and you can still do all the

things you know and respond to the
things that are going on around you that

perhaps you want to shift. But
anger and being in a combative relationship with

the world around you is just about
as disappowering a position as you can possibly

put yourself in. disempowering and it
is in a state of dissonance. Instead

of being in that staff consonance where
you're joined with others, you're separating yourself.

It's your ego acting, yes,
but you know you're talking about just

another thing that is just so amazing, and it is the the spiritual light

that forms our auric field. Are
Chakras filled constantly with everything that we think.

We take in all information, what
we read, who we speak with.

We've been taking other people's energies,
you know, even us, you

and me, where we're creating an
agree absolutely even though we're not together.

And it yeah, so the bottom
line is when you learn to master your

energy, then guess what it's like. It's like when you have in the

bottom of a little, say a
bowl, it's dirty water. If you

keep pouring that good, clean water
in, eventually those little sediments they get

rinsed out. But it takes time
and it's like you don't just get rid

of it all at once, you
know. So that's the practice of just

being in touch and connecting to that
higher power. I can't not talk about

that. It's on because it's very
important in my life. And, you

know, whatever you want to call
it, God source, the higher anything.

God. Yes, God is there
and guess what, God is good

and we are given opportunities to either
flow with God or resists. Right,

and most of our journey is spent
resisting a lot and we're going to continue

to do that, I think.
But we're human, but we do have

the that eternal spark, that spirit, and that's our guiding light. Absolutely.

I have two questions before we go
that I'd like to Oh great,

so say around with it way I
know open. Okay, question number one

is we talked about. You just
mentioned the fact that we do share energy,

whether we're on the phone even,
you know, through social media.

You know, if I think about
the number of energetic connections that you make

every single day, and you're connecting
to ads that are there, the movies

that you watch, the conversations that
you engage in, everything is energy and

everything is about the connection of energy. That's you know, and it's all

the energy of love. Like that
is the journey, is to get on

the love band wagon, because the
more of those that the bigger totally total

lands. I know quite a few
people who are in the work of nervous

and especially spiritual service, who refer
to themselves as m paths and who speak

quite a bit about taking on other
people's Energy and the heaviness of that.

And so long we winded way of
asking getting to my question, which is,

what do you do to keep your
energy clean, like how do you

maintain your energy on a day to
day basis? Cynthia, that is such

a beautiful question and something that I
teach, and of course I've learned this

from my own experiences at the spiritual
arts institute. It's a metaphysical school,

which is just simply about the journey
of your soul. So we work with

divine light and it's the energy that
rules the universe. I mean it's it's

I mean we're stardust right, I
mean we're part of the molecules, the

particles of every living thing around us, and I believe, and what I

have been studying with is that energy
that you take in must be cleared.

So I meditate with divine light every
day. I ask for what I need.

There's a spiritual color in everybody's or
for every emotion, every attribute.

You want strength, you call on
the gold light. You want love,

you call on the pink. You
want you want to be cleansed and purified,

there's this beautiful it's an orange red
flame, like a just a clearing

energy to take away those old things. So every day I start my morning

I meditate, I clear, I
cleansed, I rejuvenate. Asked for that

life force energy and my bones and
my atoms and cells, and then I

ask for whatever I need, like
today, actually, I I meditated with

a turquoise ray of abundance. Abundance
not just in prosperity, but just abundance

in all things that bring joy to
this world. Let it flow to me,

from me, through me, whatever
you're going to do, take me

through there. And Yeah, my
mantra this year. On my birthdays,

when I'm flowing with the universe,
I am limitless. So I wanted to

get in that wealth consciousness of my, you know, just my reality is

limitless, you know. So,
anyway, I do that and then it's

very important. I actually have a
video on instagram. It's called meditation,

my Meditation Video, and it tells
you my step, five steps every night

I take to cleanse and clear energy
that you've taken in. So you come

into your bed, put away your
devices, if you need them later,

just set them aside right and then
you close your eyes and take a deep

inhale and as you exhale, you
hopps. First you ask for the Golden

Bubble of protection to be sealed around
you. Now, this sounds like,

Oh wow, what's that going to
do, but I just want you to

try it now. Just close your
eyes and just imagine now this beautiful golden

lights circling around you and seven clockwise
flows in this energy is your safety,

that between you and anything that is
not for your good or the greater good

of all and just you are now
in this bubble, protected. And then

I take a deep inhale every night
and I ask for those energies that I

have taken in that are now completed, to be released, and you just

feel it washed down through your body
and out through the soles of your feet.

And then, when you're done with
that, take a few deep breaths

relax, center in and then open
your eyes and you're going to be cleansed.

Yeah, golden bubble, golden bubble, and then just as for that

water shed, that release of all
energies of your day, I love and

if it's going to work, yeah, I have a similar one. It's

funny because there is so many different
ways to do that, to cleanse ourselves,

and the importance is to cleanse yourself
like, find the one that feels

good and that feels right and that
resonates with you and do that. But

you can, you know something,
even going into a big venue, now

that we're, you know, back
in groups together stuff, when, before

you walk in that door, just
close your eyes, seal yourself in that

Golden Light, asking you know,
I want to be protected now from any

outside energies that are not for my
good or for the greater good of all,

and that just gives you that current
just to walk through that door knowing

that people can do whatever they're doing
and it's not going to get in your

energy field. So I do use
that divine light a lot. I really

recommended. It's really transform my life, just giving me that personal power of

what I need calling on it and
take a little and it's this thing that

we say about, you know,
we're not alone or not wanting to be

alone, and the truth is that
being alone, we're never really alone.

First of all, right, and
second of all, the alone is really

where that when you recognize that there
is a conversation and communication happening. So

being alone is really just getting yourself
grounded enough and cleans enough to recognize that

there's a communication happening. Anyway.
That's said. It perfects what alone is.

Alone is not isolation. Isolation is
when we, you know, go

and shut ourselves off from the world, excuse me, and put ourselves into

a position of feeling like there's nobody
there for us, which is pretty that's

isolation. That's different to recognize to
and I hear, you know, with

my clients and you know we have, you know, it's personal when we

do the spiritual healings and they share
with me what their feeling, you know,

trying to Transmitt that energy, and
a lot of people do feel just

like they don't fit in, like
they're there's this a loness, no matter

who's with them, around them.
And you know, working with your own

spiritual energy, working with that light
within you and developing it and growing it.

It just opens you up to,
like you said, that portal of

knowing that you're not actually alone,
you're you're you're connected to everything and with

everyone around you. Really, when
you believe that in your heart and soul,

and you know, I don't think
you could feel as a loness as

he struggles of some people are.
So anyway, we could go on and

on about this good way and I
think we could later think I think we

should come back, but I do
because I'm I'm really focused on relationships right

now and and the audience is,
hopefully, and so a lot of,

as you know, a lot of
what I believe is around the relationship that

we're in with ourselves, and that's
really just, you know, to prep

us to be in better relationships with
other people. So sent to you and

your husband. If you don't mind, three tips or three things that you

learned about relationship or something about really
okay, would be fantastic. Here is

a fabulous impetus for anyone who's struggling
with do and in a relationship. Number

One, I believe in past lives
and I believe in future lives and I

believe that you are here with the
people in your life that you have those

close one on ones, with two
being Karma, being union with them to

solve it. There are many people
in your life that you don't have anything

to resolve. So those are those
harmonious flows. When you come like this,

was someone knowing that if you don't
solve it in this lifetime, you're

going to have to face it again
in the next. That number one for

me was an impetus because I thought
this is down and dirty right now.

If I cut the ties, if
he cuts the ties, we're going to

be screwed for that next time.
We have to work it out. Yeah,

and number two, when I started
realizing that it wasn't him, it

was me. I also took part
in this relationship for how many years at

that point? Twenty five years.
And you know, when you start like

you, you speak a lot of
you know, just not being the victim,

just taking that responsibility. When I
realized that, everything I was thinking

about what he had done or was
doing. When I put that back on,

well, what did I do?
What did I say? How did

I react? And you know,
I remember, just for the for helping

me through, I had just this
little sign up on my mirror. There

was that soccrate sign, which is
the unexamined life is not worth living.

Right. So every time I thought
like, Oh man, he's the one

that did everything, and I just
thought, you know, I keep Digginson,

you got to keep going in there. Why? Why? And so

that's number two. And number three
was when you love somebody, I don't

know, there's just some soul connection
and you gotta you might not even be

able to live with them, but
you got to honor that love and we

had that love. So we were
lucky, I think. And it's not

for everybody to go back to your
husband and, you know, work it

out or anything. It's not going
to work all the time and that's just

the way it's meant to be.
But for us, thankfully, it did

work out. So little bit of
counseling along the way, it doesn't hurt,

and just the effort knowing that now
our Karma has been totally solved.

We are like two best friends,
two kids in a candy store. So

I can't even imagine if we had
broken up what it would have felt like,

how different my life would be now, even you know, just so

that's the answer. Just yeah,
figure it out. Figure it out,

do you, and how can you
come to some resolution to leave this in

a good place by the time your
time is up? That's all. Doesn't

maybe have to begin back together.
And I think Karma, you know,

is an interesting metaphysical concept and I
think even for the life that you're in

right now, you know, if
you cut things with that truly examining the

relationship and examining who you are in
the relationship in addition to who that other

person is, what you wind up
doing, or what many people wind up

doing, is bouncing from that situation
and then you wind up going to find

a person with the same exact thing, different face, different name, and

until you resolve a thing, it's
going to keep presenting itself to you.

How all the other times that's a
man or a woman. Sometimes that's a

relationship, some other relationship, a
friendship, a job, totally manager or

people that work for you, like
you. What we choose not to resolve

continues to come back, because God
and the universe is always wanting to help

us to heal and present his opportunities
to heal and they give us those opportunities

to rectify and to fix it and
to try to learn and go on.

And you know what, it's funny
when you talk about just this thing about

healing, and I and I remember
back two years ago, I just,

you know, I just gotten more
intuitive, and I think we all have

during two thousand and twenty and everything
that we went through, being alone and

all that in our home. But
Anyway, I got this message about healing

and I remember posting something about that. I thought two thousand and twenty was

going to be the year of healing, and I received a lot of feedback

from people are saying like what we're
doing, great, we don't need healing

because, guess what, we're kicking
ass whatever. But the bottom line is

healing is what we're all doing,
whether you don't, absolutely don't want to

call it that, it's our responsibility
and just and I'm so happy and proud

for people and I see you and
what you're doing and and just how you

just are making a difference, reaching
out to others because, guess what,

we all meet each other and absolutely
and it is a healing journey to be

our true selves. It's not that
we're broken. Were shattered, although,

you know, we got some cracks
along. Yeah, yeah, but anyway,

I just am so I just every
day I wake up and I see

the goodness in the world that I
see and you're one of them. I

tune into your thank you some podcast
you and I see your beautiful face smiling

when you know you could be out
there, just like everybody else, finding

something to complain about. You know, and I all Ague you that.

Yeah, yeah, I value you. Thank you so very much. Thank

You, cure. Your time is
valuable and I really appreciate you wanting a

feeling to spend an hour with me. Thank you so much. I can't

believe it's been an hour already.
I know and I know. Thank you.

I hope that you all enjoyed the
conversation that Cynthia and I had as

much as we enjoyed sharing it with
you again. There are so many things

that are beautiful about this life experience
that we're having and so many ways that

we can tap into the solutions for
the things that maybe don't feel as good.

So I encourage you to listen to
this episode, listen to it again

and really take down some notes,
and I hope that they're within this conversation.

Are Things that you took from it
that will help you in moving forward.

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