In this episode of the Commune Podcast, Jeff unpacks a recent panel he moderated at the Eudemonia Summit featuring Dr. Will Cole and Dr. Jessica Knurick — two smart, thoughtful voices who deeply disagree about the MAHA movement and the future of public health. Jeff reflects on why nuanced conversations are so difficult in an online environment engineered for polarization, and why real understanding requires asking honest questions and making space for a respectful exchange. He explores the points of tension around chronic disease, regulatory capture, environmental health, and the political contradictions embedded in the current public health debate. This episode also looks at the broader policy landscape — from SNAP reform to environmental regulation — and why meaningful progress demands both personal responsibility and systemic guardrails. If you’ve felt overwhelmed by the noise in the public health world, this conversation offers a grounded, thoughtful, and surprisingly hopeful reframe. This podcast is made possible by: Bon Charge  Get 15% off when you order at boncharge.com and use promo code COMMUNE Mimio Get 25% off with code COMMUNE25 at ⁠Mimiohealth.com⁠ Igniton Visit igniton.com and use code Commune75 for $75 off your order of two bottles or more. LMNT Get a free sample pack with any purchase at DrinkLMNT.com/COMMUNE  Stemregen Get 20% off your first order at stemregen.co/commune with the code COMMUNEPOD