CxC Ep11: AI Bubble or AI Battlefield? The fight for asymmetric advantage
September 16, 2025 · 1 hr 23 min
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A defense tech CEO explains why 95% of AI pilots fail and what it costs when governments get it wrong.
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In this episode
- Why most enterprise AI pilots fail before they ever reach production
- What asymmetric advantage through AI actually means for national security
- How structural problems inside organizations block real AI value
- Why AGI promises distract from the integration work that matters now
About this episode
CodeStrap's "Code and Connor" Episode 11 features our friend Pat Mack, Founder and CEO of PVM, Inc. After retiring from his position as a Naval Officer, Pat launched PVM in 2010 and for more than a decade, PVM has partnered with Palantir on government deployments across the public sector. On this episode we discuss the AI bubble, failed pilots and the structural issues plaguing enterprises from getting value from AI. We also unpack AI in the public sector and the West’s requirement to have an asymmetric advantage through AI, the promise/lie of AGI and Palantir’s integration capability being it’s competitive advantage.
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PVM
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Website: https://www.pvmit.com/
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PVM (LI): https://www.linkedin.com/company/pvminc/
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CodeStrap
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CodeStrap (X): https://x.com/CodeStrap411
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CodeStrap (LI): https://www.linkedin.com/company/codestrap
Articles/Clips Discussed
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https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/mit-report-95-percent-generative-ai-pilots-at-companies-failing-cfo/
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https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf
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