STRAWT media. Hey guys, welcome
to another episode of genuinely Gig. For
the first time ever, genuinely gig
is going to do in person, one
on one exclusive interview with none other
than Randall Emmett. He's going to be
here because he's a good friend of
mine. He trusts me and he knows
that we're just going to really show
the world to the real Randall Emmett is.
The world has heard so many rumors
about Randall Emmett and La Law's break
up allegations, but we want to
get a little insider on Randall and have
him talk to you about his children
and how he is as a father at
home. He's a big girl dad
and he loves one on one time with
his kids. While Lala has been
actively verbal in the press, Randall has
stayed quiet and for the first time
we're going to find out why. You
know her from Shaws of sunset.
You know she doesn't hold back. Are
you worried about them? And because
this day and h everyone google someone before
they date them. Right, it
doesn't matter better celebrity or not. This
is genuinely Gig High Landa, I'm
happy you're here. Yeah, thanks for
having me. Thanks for coming.
I know it's not easy for you.
Know, you know that you were
very apprehensive about even coming here, even
though we're good friends and you trust
me and I've had your back. You
know, publicly, probably we talk
you vent. You know you're going through
a lot. Yeah, and everyone
has only had one side of it,
unfortunately, and you have kids involved, which just makes everything so messy.
So I really respect as a father, as a man, that you have
stood back and you haven't said one
negative thing publicly, because I know you
and I would say you're just a
man. But why? Why haven't you?
Well, first she's the mother of
my child. So you know,
no matter what happens in life,
I will never disparage or talk ill about
her because she's oceans mom. And
so you know, I have two other
kids and I co parent with amber
and and in that world, you know
I've never said one negative thing and
amber and vice versa. You know,
I think it's just you know,
I just think that at the end of
the day, you know, all
the smoke or whatever this may be,
you know I'm not that comfortable in
this, this whole thing, but but
the truth is, you know,
I just have to always look at the
big picture, which is she's the
mother of ocean and I'm always going to
have to, you know, you
know, keep that. You know,
that's just that I just can't talk
badly about the mother of my child.
I just can't do it, no
matter what is said about me or what
she says or you know. So
how does it feel, because honestly,
it's almost like a every two three
days there is something new that, you
know, we are publicly hearing that
she is saying about do you does it
hurt? How does it feel personally
inside? Well, I mean it doesn't.
It doesn't feel good. You know, it's you know, I'm working,
you know, to provide for my
family and my children every day and
spending time with my kids. Look, I always have and at the end
of the day I, you know, just try to keep my head up.
You know, I don't. I
you know, I just hope that
eventually that stuff subsides and people move
on to something else. You know,
I honestly at the it's just there's
always two sides to every story. But
I I'm just not going to ever
take that to the public because, you
know, it's just I just can't
get involved in all, it's just never
going to be who I am.
You know, I like making films and
my career and I love my children
and at the end of the day,
you know, I'm a single dad. Now, you know I've made mistakes,
she's made mistakes, but but I'm
never going to bring that to like
because it's just not the right it
for me. I just don't feel it's
appropriate. I can't tell her what
to do. She's she's a strong woman
and and you know, I just
hope that in time, you know,
that kind of all mellows out.
I mean, I feel like you are
in a different category of celebrity fame
in the Hollywood world then, for instance,
them on like Lalla or myself,
right where reality stars. I always
consider myself like a D lister,
you know I do. If you're dealing,
I would deal ster and I'm like
H no, you're not. No,
really, you have a different status
in this industry than someone like Lawa
does, and I feel like naturally, being in this reality TV world that
I've been in for eleven, twelve
years now, we sort of get attracted
to drama a little bit and we
sometimes, whether we're in the press for
good or bad, stuff. We
don't care sometimes until and let's we have
a little morals within ourselves. Some
of US do, some of US don't.
Right. Do you think that this
is going to affect you in your
category of industry, having all these
bad things out there? Because I've seen
you, you and I talk,
and I've heard you. You're it's hard
on you and you're worried. This
is your career, this is your life,
this is how you provide for your
family. Can this affect you?
Well, I mean, I think
it's affected me emotionally. You know,
I think that you know it's hard. You know when your mother sends you
an article or your wow, you
know your friend sent you an article,
it's you know, it's just but
I'm probably more upset at the end of
the day that my twelve year old
has access to stuff on the Internet.
I think that's probably the part that
met that that's the worst part for me.
But at the end of the day, you know, you know I've
been in this industry for a long
time. People know who I am.
You know my friends and my family
know who I am and you know we
had a relationship and we broke up
and I made mistakes and she made mistakes,
but at the end of the day, like I don't understand. I
don't think I maybe I'm just too
old to understand why. You know why
people you know why it's out there
like that. Every like it's five months
later, you know, but at
the end of the day, you know
it's yeah, really, if I
don't, it's been a minute, but
I'm still reading things. Every week
there's something and every time I I send
it to you on Mychael Jard Lord
Jesus, how do you feel? Are
you okay, rands all this?
I just read this. Are you are
right? Yeah, I think that
for me, I just I really keep
my head down and I'm trying to
focus on on, for me, what's
important right now, which is,
you know, being a dad to my
three girls and to to work and
to being, you know, to be
focused on my work. Speaking of
being a dad, ocean just heard one.
Yes, congratulation. Thank you big
number one is a big one.
It was well, especially when you
have two other girls in their twelve and
eight and you haven't seen one and
years. So it's our seven years.
It's been it's been a minute.
So one was a big deal. You
know it was. It was a. It was a flashback, but it
was great. We we went,
we had a little party at the house
and me oceans once. It's not
like I can know. Yeah, and
my two daughters, London Riley,
were there and wish to be their mother.
Amber came by bring ocean presents and
and then we went and then and
then this weekend the girls are going
to take her to Disneyland. So we're
all GONS, is we? Yeah, do you and law, law,
are you guys at the place yet
where you go to each other's birthdays for
the kid daughter? Or not there? I mean, you know, I'm
we're not. No, we're not
at that place, but not yet.
Let's say about by the way.
She say yeah, I could be at
that place, but you know,
that's I have to let law and make
that call. You know that I'm
optimistic that you know one day that that
we will be at that place and
that she will be open to that.
But you know, I respect what, however, she wants this to be.
I'm going to be respectful of that. And so she did her own
thing. And and and has it
been difficult for in your household, because
La La is like your first really
serious relationship after your marriage and you have
other kids. So she played a
big role in your household, right,
like as a I'm sure your kids
looked up to her. Is that?
Yeah, I heard. Yeah,
I don't. I really don't want to
touch on. Yeah, I just
don't want to touch on we won't talk
about only because they're my only I
don't want to talk about okay, problem.
I appreciate where. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, no problem.
Oh, no, probably you did
say that. You hope that one
day soon your name won't really be
all over there press and, you know,
the news in a negative light.
And well, I haven't in any
light. I L and good light. I'd be happy just, you know,
going back to being, you know, Randall, the filmmaker and and
and only my community. You don't
know. I don't know if that's if
that I don't know how it works. I don't know if, like there's
a period where you're an Fleiss celebrity
and or age and then and then,
like it takes twelve months and then
you drop off. Well, I don't
know how it works, but I'm
hoping that like in my category of you
know whatever h celebrity, I'm hoping
you're stuck on the age, right,
I think hs think. I don't
think there's even a Z, because he
would be like, Oh, it's
a book. ND, no, I
think. I think I feel like
if I was. But if that's where
I'm at, if that's where somebody
says I'm that, I would hope that
there's like a time expiration. I
hope that I expire like in twelve months
or something, because it's four months, five months, I thought by now
and I would have expired. But
yeah, so, so, I don't
know. So I it's it's it
was. It was different. You know,
I wasn't prepared for any of that
stuff. You know, I got
in a relationship and she was new
on the show and she, you know,
definitely didn't have any celebrity how long
after she was on the show is
this Whoa the all? I met
her, look right after the first episode
aired and her first episode, and
I think we got together like after,
probably after the season, somewhere around
there. And and so that and and
I don't remember the time I but
we met, but then we didn't,
you know, I mean I watched
it on TV with the rest of the
world, because you say, I
only know that part. Yeah, the
same as the rest of the world
was the secret boyfriend that bought the Range
Rover, which is look, it's
lame. I'm too old for that type
of bullshit. You're too old for
that type of bullshit. You and I
get along so well because we have
a like my goodness and like just people
just need to chill the fuck out, mind their own business, kind of
stay in their own lane a little
bit. But that's not what this industry
is about. This industry sort of
dives in and it dives deep in.
It fucking annihilates anything in its path
that tries to stop it. Well,
I agree and I you know,
I don't think I knew what I was
I don't think I knew what I
was signing up for. A meaning I
was signing up for a relationship and
I, you know, very much in
love with her and and loved her
and and we'll always love her, and
I think that the that world I
wasn't prepared for. You know, I
didn't. I had no idea.
I thought you could just date somebody in
that world and they leave you alone
and that person is the star and then,
you know, time goes on and
and and people want to know and
then you start realizing and then you're
already so in the relationship, your years
in at that point. But when
I met her, you know, she
was only on the first season.
It wasn't should have obviously the big celebrity
that she has today, and she's
very different than too. That's where,
like, she wasn't sober. We're
going to take a quick break, but
when we come back Katie's very strong. What a strength. I'm stronger,
but I would never diminish someone.
I don't supposed to all get married,
first of all, let's just put
that out there. And if I did,
I would never diminish the poor bastard. I was just fucking divorce,
and which I did. I married
a guy in seven weeks later. Instead
of talking Shit, I signed a
paper. It was cool for the world
to watch her get so I went
through sobriety. I did a hundred and
twenty days. We have two thousand
and five, and I know what happened
with me. Like, over time, I started noticing the people I was
hanging out with weren't serving me in
a positive way and I started, you
know, getting rid of certain people
and introducing different types of people into my
lives that were helping me growing me. Did you see a change like that
shift being so close? You guys
were so close with each other? No,
I don't know. I just I
just think that, like, no,
I just think that I wasn't prepared
for for what that world has a
store. I mean, I can't
believe, you know how nasty people are
to me or to my kids.
They don't know me, they never met
me, that they know nothing about
me, my life or my childhood or
my upbringing and things I've been through, the struggles that I've gone through as
a young person and even today,
and they just they just sit at a
computer and fire like the NASTIEST,
most evil stuff I've ever seen. Right.
And you know, I have this
new thing now. When I was
somebody's really mean, like to the
point where I'm like, they're talking about
my kids or or just, you
know, my family or something. I
now I have a new thing where
I you don't. When I was younger,
I used to maybe come back because
law of your stocks, you know,
step back and defend, and she's
good at that stuff. I'm not
as witty. So now I say, like they say something really mean,
I say I say hi, Judy, it's so nice to hear from you.
I hope you're having a beautiful week. So thank you for the kind
words. So that's what I've been
doing. Now it's actually like therapeutically.
I don't get mad anymore. I'm
no, you know, I don't get
frustrate now, I just like a
girl the other day, I forgot,
a woman the other day or a
guy the other day. Forgot it.
The thing there's a guy on and
a woman there. Both were so nasty
and I was like, David,
you are the kind. Your words are
so kind, so inspiring. Keep
up the happy Monday. Thank you so
much. You know, talk soon
come a kind of I just I just,
I go the complete other way now. Sometimes they just come back over
the top and are an asked her, but a lot of times we're like,
you know, you're right, I
shouldn't have been. I don't really
know you and you know I just
don't know. I don't understand it.
I don't understand when you don't know
somebody. I mean, I obviously they
know what they read and and I
get at it, but but I mean
to be so angry and so mean
and you don't even know. The part's
not like I ran into that person
at a restaurant, yeah, and told
him move out of the way,
like it's like somebody from Iowa Yea.
So that that's been all. That's
been a transition and the whole social media
of it, where it's tough.
I felt bad. I'd still do.
I feel bad when I see these
things coming out of by you. I
care about you a lot and obviously
I show that in a very different no,
high judy, hope you have a
great day with me. It's get
a fucking life and I kill your
logic. I kill people with facts and
logic, and I mean people feel
stupid about the thing that they were doing.
and honestly, it's just been so
much of it. And I'll be
I don't care if I sound sexist
because I'm a woman and I can say
this. I do feel like there's
a lot of support, more support behind
women who are heartbroken then a man
who is heartbroken. Yeah, there's been
no room for you to say how
you feel about this breakup. It's a
loss for you, just like it
is for her, but no one has
heard that. I have. I'm
lucky enough to be your friend and,
you know, hear what you're going
through and be there for you, but
the world hasn't heard anything. They
just hear a woman scorn and with anger
and rage, you know. So
I'm just I'm so happy you're here.
Happy, here, here I am, I I just I can't, I'm
just never going to really comment on
running that stuff. I just feel like
what I'm going through and what I've
gone through, what my mistakes and my
accountability and that she also has a
side to it, which I, you
know, again, will never go
into. But you know, I feel
like at the end of the day, we have ocean, you know,
we have this beautiful girl that you
know, that is the most important thing
and when I think about all the
chaos and the things that peep, I
don't really read stuff anymore at all. I don't. It's just healthier for
me. But when somebody sends me
something, or my mother will send me
to ask her not to, but
she does. You know, I just
try to think like you know,
we have this beautiful girl and she wouldn't
be here if it wasn't for for
us, and that that is worth all
of the the the turmoil and the
heartbreak and the pain that that, you
know, is gone on. I'm
not saying that I'm happy about any of
it. I'm not. I'm sad, but at the same time I have
ocean, she has ocean, and
I think we both would say that,
you know, we have her out
of this and and and how can we
not be grateful? And that's how
I feel. So I so that's why
I'll never you know, I just
can't go down that road of like you
know my feelings, because my feelings
are not in my opinion, they're just
not relevant on a public platform.
Right. Yeah, and I think you're
absolutely a great father and I'm just
ocean. But I'll tell your children and
I see you're always actively with them, playing with them and just doing fun
things, yeah, for them,
which is Great. I didn't have my
dad was a workaholic, which he
built what he built, yeah, which
I'm grateful for, but I really
see your post and your videos and I
just wish I had more of that
with my dad. You know my dad.
Yeah, I met you. My
Dad like because a Lallah. Yeah,
punker. Yeah, that's awesome,
and he came to a charity thing
for what was the LAPD? Yeah, it was. My Dad was like
best. He's with the chief.
Yeah, my dad's designed all the precincts
and you know Polane stay. Yeah, no, wevent. We met there
playing poker and then your dad and
I were in the final table. Or
Yeah, you know was it was
fun and then you lost and then you
were giving my dad tips on how
do we yes, the guys which be
coaching poker. Is kind of like
a joke. But anyway, that was
that was a lot of fun.
I yeah, well, you haven't taught
ocean pickle ball yet. I'm trying. I she loves the ball. She
holds the ball all day. This
morning the ball is her obsession, at
least in my house and then,
but now the balloon is the obsession.
Like this morning we were watching TV
and she's laying in bed with the balloon
for an hour. Did Not let
go of the balloon. Shoot, the
balloon is more exciting than anything right
now. But the ball is big.
The pickle balls big, big.
She likes to watch me play or she
watches her sister's play. Yeah,
but yeah, I think. I mean,
listen, Laala's athletic. I'm,
I don't know, pretend on athletic.
I mean, if you'd really pick
a ball, you have to have
a pickleball players Beamina and yeah,
that's not an easy you gotta keep moving.
Yes, I'm a good pickleball player. I don't never get any other
sports, but I'm good at your
devoted. I'm committed. You send me
links to random pickle ball shit that
I'm like Randall, I am not interested.
Pickle ball is fase. Oh my
God. Yeah, what is up
with pickle ball? What do you
have in store with the pickleball world?
You know, I'm in the middle
of buying, closing a deal right now
of buying an APP, a big
APP in the pickleball community, which we
want to grow and turn into like, because we see the sport as a
two thousand and twenty eight Olympic game, and that's why most people see it
as and we see it's a fastest
scoring sport in the United States. And
for my for my audience out there, that just but I learned what pickle
ball was via grandall that doll for
those you don't know what pickle ball is,
wood is pick a ball. Pickle
ball is like a small version of
tennis, except you play with like
a fiberglass racket or a graphic racket with
no strings. It's a whiffleball,
not a tennis, wilful whiffle, whiffle,
and it's like it's with full it's
light and it's a very small court.
So what makes it great? I
think why people in this country are
addicted is because you could be any
age with very little athletic ability and you
could still come out and play the
first time tennis. Because, I wrote,
a lot of people play tennis before
they play bogball tennis. You have
to be a certain level to play
with somebody at your level. Like I
can't go out in tennis a play
with a beginner because it will be torture.
Write. The ball be going over
the hey, the part. So
where's whiffleball? It's so easy that
the Cortis was small, that I can
go out there like I go out
there by twelve year old, even though
she's been taking what is a list
football or pickleball? It's called pickleball but
it's played with a whiffleball. Play
what will I don't know why. Let's
attend twist. The should be called
a football. Is pickleballs, like you
know that odd thing, but Um, anyway. So it's a very easy
game and people of every age play
and it's really becoming a big, big,
big sport. It's number one in
America. It's growing at us a
rate that's unbelievable. We just had
the PPA tour, which is the big
ball pro tour, bought by a
billionaire named Tom Dundin. So He's dumping
an incredible our money. So that
it's just you're getting a lot of love
of people into the game. It's
the game. But Yeah, you've got
a lot of celebrities that play it. I'm putting on a big PROAM next
year in La and Bob. So
yeah, I you blew it up on
a vander pump rules. Dude.
I think that's the way a lot of
people who even learned about it was. I think that's the reason I appears
it was just hilarious and you were
just getting all involved. Yeah, it's
do you still play with pickle ball? Do they ever come over and play
pickleball with you? Are they only
lawlaw side now? No, I mean,
what's they're always gonna be all house
the court. Jacks Jackson, I'm
been friends for for forever and we're
still friends. I mean we had lunch
yesterday and the sweetheart and he's always
been a friend to me and I was
be a friend of him, and
Tom Words and I still talk and I
know that he's now going through a
really tough time. And you guys are
cool. Yeah, at least they
bumped you out of the press and they
came into the press ahead of you. Now, where we should thank them
for there they're supposed. I don't
know. They're divorcing or they're separated.
I don't know. I read what
you read, but you know. But,
but thing is, I don't want
to see anybody go through anything and
I you know, my heart goes
out to Tom and I'm happy for Tom
I honest to God. He's such
a sweet guy and he deserves to be
with someone who values him and not
diminishes him. It's so fucked up.
We watch it on camera, we
and there's like, listen, I'm on
a reality show. There's cameras in
the room, you're miked up and you're
diminishing your husband and mom, mom, be right there, hitters running.
Okay, listen, I've been for
the I want to say for the rest.
I am not honestly, and it's
not. She died. Katie's very
strong. What a strength. I'm
stronger, but I would never diminish someone.
I don't supposed to all get married, first of all. Let's just
put that out there. And if
I did, I would never diminish the
poor bastard. I'm just fucking divorce
them, which I did. I married
a guy and seven weeks later,
instead of talking Shit, I signed a
paper. Okay, everybody, I
think, does it in their own yeah,
is the right way. When I'll
arguing with are you with anybody these
days, all I'm gonna say is
this. I think any time people break
up it's a it's a sad and
day thing and I'm sure they're both going
through a really difficult time, honestly. And Yeah, and I know that
I've known them both, this is
you're a big teddy bear, you're softy,
and that's why it's sad for you. I like, yes, do
you want my divorce attorney? Oh
my God, got you, boy,
I got you covered. I'll send
my divorce attorney over. Okay, yeah,
she's really good. That's good.
Yeah, it's great divorce attorney,
by the way, just in case
of your future. I yeah, are
you? Are you dating? I'm
dating, but I'm not dating like exclusively
anybody like. I know there's their
stuff out, though that says I am,
but whatever, I'm not. And
and right now I'm just trying to
get my feet on the ground,
you know, I'm just trying to figure
out life. I'm focused right now
and making sure my my work is providing
for my family and doing that and
being there for my kids and and I'm
just dating and figuring things out.
And at the time, yeah, I
just I think I need time to
really get my head back to to that
place. Like you know, this
is it's one thing to go through a
breakup, it's another thing to go
through a break up the way that I've
had to go through a breakup.
Yeah, and I'm not looking for any
sympathy of any sort. I just
I wasn't prepared for this kind of thing.
And and so it's a little more
intense than, yeah, you know,
sitting in your house and going through
it. You know, you're kind
of it's kind of everywhere and everybody
is aware. So it's like, you
know, everybody you know worried about
that. I mean because this day and
each everyone google someone before they date
them. Right, it doesn't matter if
that was your case, you get
googled. Well, that's AK. If
that's the case, because I will
first sugar totty and now you're your jus.
Are you worried that, like you're
obviously, is it if my daily
life is going to be dictated by
right, by the Internet? Would it
be? I'M gonna be a worried
about that. Know that I'm be alone
the rest of my life. If
yeah, no. Um, are you
worried that you might get a certain
type, you might attract a certain type?
Honestly, my head, first it
was about you being you are Sugar
Daddy, and I think that everyone
was. I hands. Let me try
to get in on that Sugar Daddy, you know. And then now these
this whole other perceptions being put out
there. Do you think one will outweigh
the other? Do you think people
forget about it all? Are you worried
at all? I don't think about
that stuff. Honestly, I don't.
I really don't. I just I
just tried. You my thing every day
and and you know, fifty years
old, like the Internet is, it's
a world that I don't understand.
I you know, unfortunately, I just
don't. I don't understand how,
you know, people just can say anything
they want and and just it just
and so for me, you know,
I feel like when I start dating
seriously, I will that person will not,
hopefully, care about the booth.
Yeah, I mean it just that
stuff, you know. You know, I I think at the end of
the day, I it's so far
out of my realm right now. Like
right now it's really just I have
three girls and they take up a lot
of my I mean you have a
you have a child. So you know,
one child takes up in your and
your full time. You know,
your full time. So you know, I'm sharing custody anywhere to drop off
my kid right, right, and
and so I have so I have to
balance a job and making sure that
my girls also have my attention. So
right now there's just I think it's
going to take me a minute. If
are you can do yeah, because
I because I have to. Yeah,
because I have to got to balance
all this stuff. I have to balance
like, okay, I'm home for
this amount of hours and I can go
to the office and do that,
then I have to go on a set
and and then I come home again
and as I'm just trying to juggle and
I think that'll take me a while
and I think it's going to take me
time to get through all this stuff
and and and be okay. And I
think what she's once I get to
that place, then I could that.
Then maybe I'll be more concerned about
that. Like what what are the you
know, what are people are going
to think? But I don't think I
even think that way because I'm okay, you know, having to balance my
responsibilities, which are every day,
you know, full stop to the Brim.
We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back,
you guys talk to an APP right
now, though, because of the court
stuff we do. Do you,
you, and I know you do,
wish it would get to a better
place where you guys can communicate, hopefully.
Well, yeah, I mean,
listen, we talk about ocean and
I think it's a good idea for
you in law, Alaw, to get
to a good place. You know, because I know that your mother,
of your other children. You guys
are in a good place and you guys
co parent. We always have been. We always have it as are cool
you guys. So that's a great
place to be for a child to see
their parents be in that happy place. And then when you want to start
dating, it's so much easier for
the new person in your life, for
you, the children involved, that
everyone's just in a happy trusting yeah,
and again and again, at the
end of the day, that really co
parenting is the only focus of mine, you know. Yeah, you guys
talk to an APP right now,
though, because of the court stuff we
do, do you? You,
and I know you do, wish it
would get to a better place where
you guys can communicate, hopefully. Well,
yeah, I mean, listen,
we talk about ocean, you know,
and that's and, that's and that's
it and and and, honestly,
as long as we're talking about our
daughter, I mean that's the most important
thing. The rest of it's not
right to me. The rest of it
is what it is. You know, I think to other people it's more
exciting and important, but to me, you know, you've never responded to
her like, Oh my God,
why did you say this about me?
Now? I mean, I'm just, you know, she listen, she's
she's a great mother, you know, I'm a great father. And and
and oceans. I and, my
opinion, very lucky to have two parents
who love her, you know,
as much as we both do. And
and at the end of the day, you know, that's all I can
ask for. I really I can't
ask for anything more than that. I
you know, I've of course,
I'm hopeful in the future that, you
know, I hope that we'll get
to a place of being of the CO
parenting being maybe a little more fluid. But at the end of the day,
you know, we're co parenting and
and and that's that's it. My
focus is ocean. My focus is
not anything else right now. and and
London and Riley. Obviously that's been
my focus until ocean was born. So,
you know, I have three girls
that I have to be responsible to
and and the rest of like the
mechanical of it, you know, don't
they're not. As you know,
I don't let them kind of take over
as much. I think that.
I think that. I really, you
know, I just want to be
the best co parent I can be and
and whatever version that is going to
be right now, I support, you
know, and I'm going to let
her you know if she's not ready to
to do more than what we're doing, it's okay, you know, like
that, like oceans loved very much
by her and she's love very much by
me. I mean her sisters at
home are infatuated, you know, Riley
carries ocean around like it's her baby. You know, Riley gets mad when
Ohan doesn't want to let go my
shirt. Riley will say, you know,
dad, this is a fair I
want ocean and I'm like, you
gotta Let your Dad Have Ocean for
it. Yeah, yeah, I'm like.
I'm like, Riley, you gotta
Let Your Dad have her for a
minute. And she's like Dad,
and I'm like trying to give her to
it somebody. So she's like holy, out of my shirt and I just
let daddy have her for like two
minutes, five minutes. Let me just
have a few minute and but but
Riley loves being the big sister. She
loves playing with her. And then
London, who I really really thought,
you know, because teenagers like they
you know, want a new baby becomes
it's like you deal with kind of
the weight of attention, and London did.
I did deal with that in the
beginning. London really struggle in the
early months of like well, it's
little baby, it just sleeps and eat.
Should really but now ocean has such
a big personality. Now London's like
I want to hold her, I
want to play with her. So now
it's like now it's like they and
they came up with the idea to go
to Dizzeland. So we want to
take ocean to Disneyland. This would be
so that's a fun yeah, the
fact that you have that understanding says a
lot about you and you're not oblivious
to having such a huge age difference in
yeah, siblings, that you're recognizing
that this one is an active teenager.
Yeah, this in this in life, and here's a two year one year
old, yeah, who's just starting
out in life. Yeah, and you
got to separate and define your attention
and how you just dress. Oh,
it's that's the most complated thing,
because I'm stuck at all my kids are
three years old. Still like it, like London, Riley, I still
look at them as their three.
So I have a big problem which I've
had to address, that even my
twelve year old has sit downs with me
now where she said the other day
and then her mother amber, called the
amber, because you know, you
need to take London to do different things
and you take with Riley and I'm
like, but but she was like five
the other day. How was she
twelve? So, yeah, that's that's
the hardest part for me. So
now, after I had an emotional the
time I had the emotional breakdown was
when we were in the mall and and
she and I brought her girlfriend with
her and they went to the mall and
or it was a grover was the
mall I fair out where one of the
West field. I want of them, and we go there and I walk
in in London and her girlfriend go, Dad, we're gonna go to these
couple stores and then we back in
like thirty minutes and I go what?
Like I've had them attached at my
hip. Anywhere we go and I'm like
what do you mean thirty minutes?
And she's like and then her girlfriend's like,
no, we'll be back you.
We have our phones, you can
call us. My mom does it
all the time. And I was like,
all right, you go to that
store and I'm going to watch.
And so she goes to stores like
six feet away and I call amber.
I'm like amber, what is going
on? And she's like no, no,
this is what you have to let
them have their events and I was
like, I put the phone down. I was like bawling, like in
the mall by myself. So got
hard for her father's when they have daughters
it's a very different thing with boys. Thinker. Yeah, boy, it's
like very different. He's going to
football practics. I get up, figure
it out, get it together.
He did. I was like walk off.
Yeah, I had a son and
it would be very, very different,
because I wanted to be like Yo, let's go kick in the backyard,
let's go play, but now.
So that was a big change.
So now I'm really good at because
London will come to me and say,
Dad, I want to go,
I want to go to the mall,
but I really don't want Riley coming. I want it to just be you
and I. So I'll say to
Riley, are you cool with the hanging
with ocean? It's like yeah,
she's like good to go. So I
take Oh, I take lone it, we go shopping, I help her
get whatever she wants and the the
clothes furst she needs and then we have
like a great two hours that she
comes home and she's happy. So I've
learned and learning. It took a
long time. I was still take her
to do shit that five year olds. So are you you high five for
that? Yeah, that's really yeah, dad behavior. That's yeah, I
commend you for that. And people
don't realize that about you because they don't
know anything about you. But you
love kids. Yeah, yeah, you're
just a great dad. You're very
hands on and you know that's awesome and
I hope all that negative shit goes
out of the way soon because your kids
are getting older and that's that's the
only part. Bigger and bigger and more
accessible to kids. So I hope
that they don't have to see much more
and I just I do to.
I well, would you, if you
have to say one last thing that
was maybe your takeaway from and it doesn't
have to be just from law,
law situation, but just in the last
I don't know, ten years,
what have you been what have you learned?
What have you come across and changed
about yourself in general? I think
I'm more patient, you know,
I really, I really I didn't have
a lot of patients as a younger
person. You know, I have a
lot of energy, naturally, but
I think at fifty I kind of a
more tolerant of things. I think
that. You know, if you ask
me fifteen years ago and this was
happening, you know, maybe I would
have opened my mouth and not thought
first it alliated. Maybe, maybe,
probably, I probably would have been
like. You know, I probably have
been like what will you know?
I have something to say right today.
I think about ocean, I think
about London, I think about Riley.
You know, when it comes to
speaking publicly, you know, everybody makes
mistakes and everybody's nobody's perfect. You
know, if we had to take a
magn to find last everybody's life,
everybody is is is, has fault and
and makes you know, I at
the end of the day, I you
know, I'm moving forward and,
you know, again always being a dad
that I've been. But I think
I'm more tolerant today and I think that
I'm more patient and, you know, and in being understand, more understanding.
Yeah, and I think that.
I think that life, if you
have your health, you know,
your healthy. You know there's a lot
of people that don't have that and
we forget that the little things in life
like health and children and your children's
health and your family's health. I mean
family health. By I have friends. I have a friend specifically who's got
a child that's very sick, and
I mean the pain and the in,
the in the sadness that he has
to face daily. It puts like when
I see him, it puts it
in perspective, because I'm like, you
know, pray for him, for
his for his child, and and so,
you know, we're given a blessing
and you know, unfortunately, you
know, nobody's perfect and I think
that sometimes we think everybody should be perfect
and we have to be forgiving.
You know about it. Yeah, because
none of us are perfect and we
all fuck up and and we all have
and and and we all have made
mistakes, not just you know, you
know not everybody owns all their mistakes. But but that's the thing right there.
Yeah, issues. Everyone's a judge, but not everyone can take accountability
correct and that's the Internet rolls and
all that bullshit that we deal with in
this modern day society. It's just
people who just go on and type some
shit up and it just goes viral
and all of a sudden it's something that
never even existed. So it's just, yeah, yeah, stay woke people.
I don't know how you do it. I know that you do it
on your show every day and I
had a very small taste of it and
it was a large enough taste for
me that you know, understand that it's
a lot like have you've been on
that show for how many years you're shore
shaws is, Geez, we just
a couple days ago it was ten years
from the first episode. Are Okay
about eleven years? I mean, that's
true. I can't imagine the eleven
years of the up and down. And,
by the way, it seems like, and I've I was to guess,
when you started eleven years ago,
the social media press wasn't like it
is today. So you so different
right then? Right. So today,
very competitive. It's just weird.
Right. There's no respect, I think,
and that's why I understand, like
Denzel Washington always says, I'm not
going to get on Instagram, because
the more exclusive you are, the more
people want you, the more that
depend is. But literally it's shifting.
It's more available you are, the
more but want of you. Look at
Kim Kardashian falls like twenty times a
day. She was. She what she
posts. So she doesn times a
day if she posts so much. So
there's something I think I followed.
I think I forty. I don't get
it. I don't know if I
follow her, I don't remember. But
you don't follow Kim Karda know.
I don't know if I did, and
I can't be friend he is life? Oh, no, I did,
everybody. I mean when she was
caught fucking rage a, not necessarily caught,
but like you know, old hold
produced, crisp produced. Yeah,
we know how that happens. Hold
on, hold on it, wait,
but wait. So, but she
post that much? She does. She
post a lot. It's turning into. I think that's just what social media
I don't follow, I don't follow
him Kardashians, but I follow. I
follow Courtney. Oh, she's the
only Kardashian I do. That shows you,
that shows you how how to touch
on her because of who she's seeing
now. That's why. No,
I think I followed her because I knew
Scott, you know, back in
the day, and like and I and
and, I don't even know.
Yeah, I think it's at least interesting
to watch. Now, I'm kidding. Oh God, I'm kidding. Your
kidding. No, I love but
what an amazing empire they've built. I
mean that's I mean, come on, I mean they're I mean get and
this new deal at Hulu, which
I'm not even a big Kardashian, fills
every time I think about it.
By the way, that trailer they put
out was was epic. I died
and I don't even I don't even watch
the Kardashian is like Shit, you
don't watch the car I see everybody watches
the Kardashians. Everybody watches how did
you even know who Scott Desik was if
he didn't watch the Kardashians? I
went to Tabo with him, law and
I did. I went to come
with lall and and and Sofia Richie.
That's how you met him the first
no, no, I knew him through
like Alec Monopoly, with other friends. No other okay, I'm gooding.
I quit. I quit. Thank
you. Thanks. Thanks to else that
you would want out there, just
so you want to say a last piecers
or anything. I want people to
look forward to his or anything you want
to know. I mean just that. You know, I directed a movie
that I've coming out in the fall
with Roberts and hero, John Malkovich and
Jack Houston and a come out Septever. But wait, you gotta say that
very Sol because you just named God's
which is name some gods right now.
So can you rename the people that
are in this upcoming film? Robertson hero,
John Malkovich, Jack Houston and Quevo
from them goes. And when is
it coming out? September. What's
it called? Wash me in the river?
All right, ver, we have
to look out for that. Thank
you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks for listening
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