Danielle Staub, Absolutely : Host of PRIDE Levi Chambers

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Straw media. Hey guys, welcomeback to Daniels, to absolutely and I
am so proud to be honoring pridethis month, and my special guest is
none other than the person that createdpride on Instagram, Levi Chambers. This
week, I want you to knowthat we're providing information for those of you
who may need information on where togo, who to speak to. Leave
has also been a Clutha of ofinformation for across the platforms for any of
you who may need to follow andlook into it and are having trouble with
your identity. Look no more,identify yourself or right here. Your search
is over. I'm so happy tohave the mine as a guest today.
Without further ADO, please welcome leavehily right. How are you good?
How are you? I'm so excitedto have you here today. You don't
even know. I'm really excited tobe here today and to meet you.
I think is Super Fun. Inot like something I thought would happened it.
Where is everybody? This guy isthis is pride. Right here,
leave chambers, is the meaning ofpride when it comes to me. I've
been following you for so long andI didn't even know it was really you
until I'm meeting you and I'm likewow, that really is him. Okay,
because I tell you and everything is. I'm so proud of your community,
our community and the shared adventures andI just have so much that I'm
sure all of my viewers and fansare curious about and I want to hear
about your endeavors as well. Andwe'll just start right off with obviously you
know you run many pages. Prideis one of them, but you have
many. Would you like to tellme the affiliation and Association for the For
the podcast that you run on prideand everything that ties it together? Because
we all connected, we own allthat. So yeah, yeah, definitely.
So, I mean it's I guessit sounds more like amazing than it
is. I mean, it's notthat it is an amazing it's an amazing
community right, but it's not all. I mean, honestly, very little
of the day to day with theinstagram pages that we run, LGBT,
lgbtq pride, the corresponding tick tocksand twitter and facebook. Very little of
the day to day or the interactionswith creators and influencers comes from me.
There's we have a few people thatwork on everything to kind of keep it
all going. But one of them, his name is Raymondahan, and he
really oversees the day to day ofjust kind of keeping the communities alive and
posting content and sharing people stories.So I have to applaud him for all
of that really hard work. Doubtout. Thank you, Ray, for
all that you do to keep thisalive and running. But this well oiled
machine began as an idea of yours. Yeah, yeah, actually, like
the whole pride thing, it goesback a long way. I actually launch
PRICOM for pride media, which eventuallywas helmed by Raff Youre Mac, who's
now at the advocate magazine. Sothat's kind of my first like leap into
Lgbtq plus media was with the inceptionof PRICOM, which I'm no longer part
of, but I like cheer themon from the sidelines. So this wasend
ever, we kind of started intwo thousand and nineteen maybe. Wow,
and look at the following and lookat everybody that you're touching. I mean
this is amazing to me. Imean when you when you were coming up,
probably there were sometimes that you'd rathernot share, but I'd like to
see if you could share a littlebit about how it felt for you as
a young man whatever were identifying ourselvesas, because it's all okay with me.
This is a I don't know ifyou know enough about me to know,
like the gay community on bisexual.So practicing or not, you're always
that. You know, I identifymyself as yes, I love all people
I've been with intimately, intimately,men and woman. However, it wasn't
really a thought process for me andI'm just wondering if you might share for
your out for everybody that's listening,what it was like for you the first
moment you realized, Hey, thisis where I belong, this is where
I feel comfortable and this is whereI'm going to call home. When was
that? I mean I came outlate. I came out when I was
eighteen and I grew up near Sedona, Arizona, and sort of, you
know, a small like Arizona town. My Dad trains horses, so I
grew up on like a little ranchand my mom worked in restaurants. So
I didn't come out till I waseighteen. I didn't do a lot until
I was eighteen. I was kindof like just hung out at home.
I played a lot of video gamesand, like you know, jumped on
the trampoline. I was a kid. So when I did come out,
you know, throughout my childhood mymom was always super supportive of I guess
you'd say like gender nonconforming behavior.Like I had a lot of Barbie dolls,
I loved my little ponies. Iplayed with those all the time.
So she was super supportive. Idon't think she was overly surprised when I
finally did come out to her.She was like okay, and you kind
of moved on and that was it. But yeah, yeah, she just
I mean that that was kind ofit. Right like shortly after I came
out. I do remember my grandmother, who is British, she she threw
me like a coming out party witha rainbow cake, and this was like
two thousand and six so it reallywasn't like, you know, you didn't
see that on Youtube or something,she just did it. Amazing, amazing.
I'll peel yeah, of this storyso far. The Post supportive,
if you absolutely I mean love islove, but in some families I'm surprised
to hear of many things, butthe abuse that can go on because you
you know you're different and maybe theiridea is that they're embarrassed or they want
did they did something wrong? Whatwould you advise to anyone who's living in
a situation then's less than inviting orwelcoming or comforting to their decisions and identifying
themselves? It's so interesting you saythat because this conversation actually came up on
a different podcast this week that Iwas on, where we were talking about
young people and like my advice tothem with coming out. And I feel
like there's a line that has tobe drawn between miners under eighteen and people
over eighteen, because the reality isthat if you are still a minor,
still under your parents roof, foryour guardians roof, you you have a
lot to lose if someone is intolerant. So it's one thing for us during
pride month to say, like everyone, be proud and come out and be
who you are and don't hide it, but for some people, particularly young
people, that's can be super riskyright, like could compared to a parent
who's not supportive and have nowhere tolive and find yourself experiencing homelessness or so
good work or worse. In California, it just a few years ago in
two thousand and nineteen that were murdered, a little ten year old right after
their Fernandez case was being sentenced,and I'm going to have the prosecuting attorney
on here for the case on mypodcast because I found it to be just
appalling watching this. I've been watchingthe Netflix special and he's ten year old
little boy and they killed him.That I think I'm gaining. I want
to talk about it with his parents. And a mile away from the Little
Fernandez case, this little boy wasmurdered. Anthony Orrello. Yeah, and
it just seems to me to belike, why is it so important how
or what someone loves or whom someoneloves? Isn't it just important that we
find love in our hearts to evengive in a world like this? And
absolutely your point of kids that areunder a certain age, it could cost
them everything. You know, that'sscary. Totally. Yeah, because they
have no way to get out ofthat either. Right, if you're still
a minor, you can't just goget a job and get your own apartment.
I mean some do write you getemancipated. You can, but I'm
seaking broadly, you can't. Soif you do this and then it has
negative repercussions because your parents may bethey're super religious or they come from just
a very, very, very conservativebackground, and it becomes abuse. If
there's there can be no way.Oh right. Obviously you can seek help
with the treubor project and different nonprofits, but by and large know so it's
when I'm giving advice to people,particularly young people, it's always like you
have to understand your situation and yoursafety and when you becoming team, everything
can change, right. You canstep towards the future that you want,
the identity that that you feel inside. You can be more proud about that,
but you do have to use somecaution and obviously there's lots of great
parents out there that support their kidsall the time, a lot more than
there are not and I think thatif somebody that's of youth or of a
certain age, like you're saying,is looking, you know, to find
comfort someplace, maybe they find comfortin another person's ears or heart telling their
story until they come of a certainage and maybe that person can help them
through it. Who knows? ButI think, do you think it's more
about wanting to just be happy withwhat they've discovered? In themselves more so
than just the I think a lotof Hetero sexual people, and I do
say that loosely, think that there'sthis conception, Oh when you decide your
gay, and I love that word, decide. It's not a decision,
it's just it's a feeling, justlike when you know that you like somebody,
you love somebody are you get afeeling with someone brushes against your little
butterflies in your stomach, you knowthat. You close your eyes and it
doesn't matter who it is. It'skind of like that in in the gay
community, the same as the Heterosexual community. It's not a decision more
so than it's when you decide you'recomfortable to talk about it or anything to
that perspective. But what would youadvise? Is someone more to say,
you know, I don't have anywhereto go and to talk to anybody,
like the Trevor Project? Would thatbe a place for them to feel safe
in the tristate area to or anywherereally to be able to find people to
speak with? Our there walls andblogs that they can go into that or
for underaged yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean I feel like when I
was coming out there. We havemy space right for social media. That
was kind of it. FACEBOOK waslike on the up and up, but
it really wasn't a thing yet.Now there are so many communities online,
whether it's on instagram or tick tockor facebook, that you can join and
be part of. It are appropriatefor people under eighteen to be part of,
where you can find people just likeyou, literally just like you,
no matter how different you think youare. I guarantee you there's at least
one other person on this planet whois like you and they are on the
Internet and you can find them.So there is some new access to community
that didn't exist back then. But, like you said, there are all
sorts of nonprofits like the Trevor Project, that can at least lend you someone
to talk to, and a lotof times it's an adult that can give
you real concrete advice and also bethere as a sounding board. So I
definitely recommend that if you're a minorwho is queer or identifies in some way
as part of the community, lotsof resources. Even like our instagram accounts,
we work really hard to respond toevery dam that we get. We
get a lot of them, sosometimes it takes a while, but we
really try to do whatever we canto put together a really heartfelt response that
will actually work. So even ifit's something we can't help with, like
we can't run to an apartment,but we can do is put you in
contact with organizations who can help you. So we have a lot of resources
that are available and you can allobviously find them on your own online too.
But I think that's the one thingthat I would say is that in
the last ten years social media hasbecomes so huge that if you ever feel
like there's no one who understands me, I promise you someone is there who
will understand you. Cremation on thewebsites that you would be able to provide
help with. They can go onto any one of your instagram accounts.
Just go on to pride at prideon instagram and probably go down to your
link tree and you could scroll throughyour bio right exactly building tree. Yep,
we use that on all three accountsand there are lots of nonprofits and
also resources in there for you thatare all free for you to access and
and I think they're even have likethe Trevor Project, Trevor Projects helpline.
There lots of different resources all freeon Instagram, but if you obviously you
don't have come or instagrams, youcan access them on your own, but
they're organized there for you if youneed them. Yeah, I'd like people
to be able to go to where. I'm considering it to be a safe
space, because I don't know abouta lot of different access to to other
websites, but I do know youknow, I've been a part of your
project for a very long time andI didn't even realize it. It's just
because I I'm in love the communitythat kept me safe when I was younger.
It was the only place that Ifelt people understood me. I was
different and so is everybody else andit didn't matter. And if you're looking
for that kind of comfort, forany of my listeners that might need that,
you can go to Levice page atpride on Instagram and just go to
his link tree and his bio andI guarantee there's something there for any of
you that are listening, whether it'sabout happiness and needing support because you're just
so happy you feel like you're goingto explode, or whether it's because you
just don't know who talked to firstabout even figuring out who you are and
identify there. We people there foryou, and I'm so proud of you
for doing this, I really am. You're like a storm, you know,
but Pete, you're quite storm.People might only realize that you're there
once a year during pride, butfor me, I always know you're there
and it's been I was in thes is when I took shelter with,
you know, the community, thegay community, and my best friend.
He was my first hair stylist andmake up artist with Ford Agency. He
was a nineteen, I was seventeenand we're still best friends, you know,
or some fifty eight and he's I'mnot going to give sage way right
now, but you know, Tommy'smy best friend forever. He just you
know, we were out. Itwas I felt like I belonged somewhere and
I wasn't even sure I needed ituntil I was there, and I think
you know that's what you're trying toprovide a space for. So to shift
years a little bit, tell meabout your icon like. What was your
influence and iconic influence like, whetherthose movies or whether it was whoever it
was, or whatever it was.What do you feel that that would be
attributed to, you know, whenI was coming out, it was really
close and I don't remember the exactyears that these two films came out,
but it was kind of interesting thatthey came out when they did because it
really, I think it helped me. And one of them was broke back
mountain, which I know is reallyCliche, but I do remember seeing it
in theaters and I also saw rentin theaters and coming from Arizona, I'd
never seen rent on Broadway. I'dnever even been exposed to it. I
may have honestly thought like Oh,this is a great movie and had no
idea it was a musical, becauseI guess I yeah, I was in
like the middle of nowhere, sothat'd be why. But those two projects,
I think definitely were some of myfirst like big introductions. Obviously I
had seen many of the like biggerlgbtq films like boys don't cry or Transamerica,
things like that, but those werethe two first. Did you ever
see birdcage but the rabble places andhorse? Yes, I was gonna be
like, listen, you cannot wavethat flag. Do you do more?
Yes, yes, of course.That was another one that I think I
probably thought in my little sheltered,like Arizona Mind, like Oh, a
great movie, they should do thisas a play or something like that,
not knowing like yeah, because theyalready dead. It's there. Pretty much
starts everything. Yeah, it's amazingbecause that's where I really started out,
was in the theater. I lovedit. I loved everything about it and
just the authentic instant gratification you canget, whether it was, you know,
less than liking or a little overthe top of liking. Someone might
be a little more boisterous than thanothers. It was all good because it
was live and it was that tome is real reality. I mean,
I don't tell anyone, but theateris the best and that is the originator,
I think, of all films.Yeah, it was probably, I
mean, if I guess, ifI went to one source, that was
like my I don't want to useicon, but it was definitely an influence
in my early coming out, itwould have been Netflix has delivery service with
DVD's, because closeted you don't gowell, especially when you're younger. You
don't like as a minor, youdon't go to blockbuster and say like,
Oh, I'm gonna rent broke back, mom can I get this? Or,
you know, even other queer filmsthat maybe we're not as like,
I guess you'd say like of theof the moment, like like broke back,
but even even some smaller like gayfilms like shelter when it came out,
or eating out. You wanted towatch them, but you can't run
them in front of someone. Sowhen I got Netflix, it was for
sure like I'm renting all the gaystuff, like give me the power,
give me the knowledge. So Idefinitely I think I had got like back
in the day, they delivered liketen DVDs at a time, whatever it
was. That was like the gayestcollection of ten movies every week, and
I would just watch them on mycomputer in my room. So I was
actually pretty well versed in Queer cinemaby the time I came out. It's
amazing. So you already knew yourway around everything, because that's that's what
leads the way. And for anyonethat wants to know some of the favorite
movies of yours, I'm certain Ican put them into my content when I
put this up. But I thinkthat having some place to go to watch,
to learn it's so readily available rightnow. I mean, would you
subjects still suggest Netflix is one ofthe top with a top or now?
Actually, yes, there's a recentdocumentary that they did with Sam fader and
Gen Richards and a son of bigtrans people. It's called disclosure, and
when I saw it I honestly likeI feel like I'm pretty entrenched in queer
culture. It changed my perspective ona lot of things and one of them,
like it didn't change it, butit definitely influenced it in the right
direction, was on Trans Representation.Some of the things that Gen Richard says
in that documentary are just like mindblown, and things that I did not think
about for all of these years,like her reflection on a spentera pet detective,
or they reflect on it. Abunch of people do that. I
never put that together. Having thatmovie made such a huge difference. So
absolutely, I would say Netflix hasa lot of queer content right now.
That is super important to catch upon. Terry's are on point right now.
I'm been watching tons of them.I mean it's just become like an
obsession for me because I'm gathering myown knowledge and content as well. To
be well versed, but I'm findingmy passion in there somewhere too, and
so maybe others confine there's as well. I mean, at my age I
got to reinvent myself about a dozentimes now, but I never ever leave
my identity out there for grabs.Know who I am. Not Too many
people might be happy about that,but I don't know those people. I
know the ones that are really happywith my identity and I'm proud of anyone
who identifies themselves however they identify themselves, as long as they don't have a
strong opinion about others identify on themselvesin a bad way, identifying thoself.
I think it's just safe to saythe world is changing rapidly and hopefully we
can keep changing opinions. But onthat Knowe, how safe do you feel
about any future? I mean you'restill very young, but I mean you've
seen, you've gone through this transition. How wordy you that it's still not
as safe as it should be fora two thousand and twenty one. I
mean I'm feeling a little disappointed,to be honest with you, because there's
a lot of information out there andout for the people that are a little
bit less than educated on it andmaybe are curious but don't want their friends
to know that they're curious. Sothey're looking into it, maybe because they
think their child might be gay andthey want to know more information, or
maybe because they want to see somethingfunny at dinner, which is not funny,
by the way, but maybe they'rejust trying to find their way with
it or trying to be okay withit, or girl or what? Do
you think about the safety of thecommunity still in two thousand and twenty one,
even with Trevor Project and everything elsethat we have? You know,
I think I would have said probablybefore the last president that we were on
a really good path and things weremoving forward and going in the right direction,
and I think that we've gone backa lot, specifically for Trans People,
and I'm not trans, so Ican't speak, you know, authentically
to that experience, but from thepeople that I've talked to either on the
podcast or that I know in thespace or who work on rallies and things
like that, it's really dangerous rightlike trans women especially are murdered very often
and you know, it makes itmakes headlines after it's a tragedy. But
I would say it's not safe fora lot of queer people living throughout the
country. Maybe not living in lastHollywood and in Hell's kitchen or in really
queer communities, but for everyone else, and even in Los Angeles it's very
dangerous to be queer still, andnot to mention the country is that it's
just not acceptable. You could beput to death. Like, why is
that a thing anywhere? How?How and why is a decision or a
feeling, let's just say, howis love a bad thing and that should
be, you know, chosen bysomebody else? I don't understand any of
that. I'm still not trying tosound like I'm step though, but I
can't even explain it to my twentyseven and twenty three year old like I
don't know. And I've been apart of the community for for a very
long time and I've seen transitions andI've seen dangerous situations and bullying and just
for walking down the street, youknow, and there were times if I
was walking a little bit behind,they'd assume like I'm not with them and
they'd be, you know, reallyganging up on the people that I'm with
until I catch up to them andbe like what the Fuck's going on?
Par In my language, but whatthe fuck is actually happening here? And
the Oh there with you. I'mlike, well, now they'll I want
to know what the fuck your problemis with them. Yeah, there with
me, but why are they andI? Two different people were not?
We all came together, you know, and so I just I still feel
very afraid, especially, and Ihate to say this, especially for the
male gay community or the transgender orthe bayonet nownbinary. I I think that
it's it's becoming, you know,more and more people have more education on
it and there's more information there.Even glee when they had, you know,
and I think it was I don'teven know what season it was,
they had like twenty five seasons,but I mean they had identified with all
of this community and I thought thatthat was amazing and brilliant and and that's
still happening. But people seem toforget, after time goes by, who
these people are. They're just listeningto a voice sing, and that's my
best example. They're not really payingattention to the fact that, yeah,
you just put on a dress,you know, and he went out there
and he performed better than new girlat the stage. So you know,
like yes, that's who you are. How safe do you think it's?
Me Think it's gonna get better withthis president. I mean, I mean,
I do think that it is gettingsafer. I don't know that I
would give that I wouldn't give thatcredit to an administration. I would give
that credit to grassroots activists who areout on the streets and spend their weekends
rallying and being loud and trying topush the movement forward. I think that
there are so many, especially youngpeople right now, who are following in
the footsteps of people like Martha PJohnson and and really fighting all the time
right to push for their own rightsand for everyone's rights. So I would
say that, yeah, it isgoing to get better. It's going to
take a long time and it's goingto be a really turbulent path, but
with the amount of dedication that I'veseen, even specifically in the Trans Community
and the the Black Trans Community,so many young people who are not afraid
to be loud, not afraid topush back against whatever a cultural norm is
is, I guess you'd say,being used to abuse them, I think
it will get better. It's justgoing to take a really long time to
get there globally. I mean Ithink that in some ways we're lucky in
the United States that the government,you know, and many ways, I
guess, protects us from violence fromthe government, where in some countries,
like you mentioned, the government willimprison you or kill you for it.
So Americans are, or people livingin the United States, I guess,
are lucky in that way. Butyeah, I think it's going to take
time and I think the real catalystto change is going to be the people
who are out on the streets protesting, probably this weekend. Yeah, I
mean that's it's good point to makeand I'm so proud of everything that you're
doing and anything that I can doto help. Now that you know that
I'm I'm happy to be here forit. Just you know I'm here.
Use My platform bring me, youknow, to wherever it is that you
mean me to be the spoken,that outspoken person, and if it helps,
even while one heart from breaking andI'm in you now, I'm all.
I just just I don't like tosee people heard. I've so much
empathy and I think it's comes fromme being a little bit of a wounded
soldier myself. But you know,I think only the strong have to go
through the toughest times. You know, the strongest, I shouldn't say only
this strong, I should say thestrongest, have to handle or maybe carry
a heavier loads. So if anyone'slistening that feels like they have a heavier
load than either one of us,it's because you're stronger than us. That's
all. You know. You gotthis would would your advice be any different
to people that are if someone wereHetero sexually wanting to have a conversation with
you and they were asking point ofquestions that were offensive, what a stance
would you take? Would you beon the defense or would you be on
that Oh, they're looking for knowledge, and try to shut it down with
giving them the knowledge that you feelthat they drive? You know, I
think like six eight months ago,I would have said, like I would
have been aggressive, back right andpush back on that, and but on
the defense. We interviewed someone onthe podcast. Their name is rained of
and they are supermodel and an activist, and when I talked about that with
them, about what it's like toget constantly bombarded because they're nonbinary and gender
nonconforming, by hate online. Howdo you not like retaliate and get angry,
and their response was essentially like noone learns if that's what you do.
You you have to be able topush back and educate people and help
them learn, and they give somereally specific ad examples and one of them
was I don't want to show theirstory because I don't fully remember all the
details, but the gist of itwas that they were went into the bathroom
and it aligned with the gender theywere assigned at birth and there was a
mom in there, I think,with their daughter, and they ended up
sprep or pepper spraying, rained ofand then online reached out on instagram to
kind of attack them again and say, like I would have done that again
because of how you present, essentially, and rained of use that to not
like attack them. Instead, theyjust kept the conversation going and the dialog
and it ended up with this personessentially learning how just to accept people right
and I don't remember if it happened, but I think there was even like
an apology like sorry, I didthat to you, but that would not
have happened had someone responded with like, you know, responded to hate with
hate. Then there's no education.So from that experience, I do think
that I learned that you have tobe able to Cryans giving US feedback.
Here's some Bryan, can you hereyou go? I am so I think
that you have to be able torespond to people. It's up to a
level with as like calm a mindas you can and try to educate them,
try to change their mind. Obviously, that doesn't mean that you put
up with abouse. Right, look, at some point you're like, okay,
I tried, didn't work. Blockingyou, not responding, not putting
out any more hate into the world, but I'm not dealing with that anymore.
That's how I would do. I'mnot. I don't happen every day.
Isn't the same for me. Youknow, it depends on what side
of the bed I really wake upon. But you know, coming from
Defense mechanisms myself, I can honestlysay rained of is absolutely one hundred percent
right. If you meet them ata point where, okay, let's talk
this true. What is it aboutme that bothers you? What is it
about the situation that bothered you?And maybe when they hear themselves say the
reasoning, rather than you giving themthe reasons why they shouldn't have done it.
They've already answered all their questions andall the information they need is in
that explanation and I think if morepeople in any community could respond that way.
Rained of I might have to lookyou up because I literally think I
could learn some things from you aswell, because defensees are always high and
people are running on that constantly.It's a fuel for cyber space that we're
living in, literally living in.I never thought my lifetime I'd see like
the jetsons come to be, butI think, I don't know if you
know who the jetsons are, her'sbest fashion ever that has judy jetson duty.
Oh my God, I love themall. Oh my God, now,
my boy, I'm going to startingin the song, but I think
that the jetsons might actually come tobe. So we're in the space and
time. Would a beautiful community ofpride fit in there? And where would
that, you know, the RainbowBe, and where would all of it
be hanging? And I just thinkthat that's kind of a funny thing like
that. We're living in this spaceand time where it's instant. We can
just tune in instantly and tell peoplehow we're feeling. So I hope and
pray that we can get to aplace where everybody's opinions really matter and everyone
gets to be an individual self.I want to tell you, I want
to ask you a question, though, before we run too wrong on this
be really political. I don't wantto, because then I go far left.
You know I want to do that. So I want to know your
funniest memory of fondest memory of likemaybe pride, of a pride that you've
celebrated. Tell me. Okay,so this it did happen during June and
it was when marriage quality passed andI was in West Hollywood with co workers
at the time, Daniel Reynolds,who's now the editor in chief of out
magazine, and a few others,and my mom was there. She was
there that weekend and she was therewhen it happened and she likes to have
fun. So I can't remember ifwe were at the Abbey. I think
we were, but there was amoment where it was the middle of the
day to we went during the dayto have food because I love the Abbey's
food and visits. I Love Ilove their food. So the popcorn chicken,
I'm just like all about it.But there was a moment where we
were all talking and I look overand my mom was with some Gogo and
she was putting money in his underwearand doing her thing and I was like
mom, what are you doing?It's thirty, and she was like well,
it's okay, he still needs money, doesn't matter what time it is,
and I'm like all right, sure, and I just felt like we
came such a long way from likesmall town Arizona. For those of you
that want to Google it, I'mfrom Rimrock, Arizona, and that should
tell you everything. You don't evenneed to Google it. Rim Rock isn't
even tells you everything. Well,cereal, yeah, you've got it.
So that was honestly, one ofthe fondest memories was marriage quality happened.
My Mom's there, she's there tocelebrate. Everyone's super celebratory. It's thirty
and she's tipping people. It justfelt like it kind of come full circle,
maybe because she was there and Iwas with really talented, you know,
journalists and and activist, but thatwas probably one of my fondest memories
because everyone was like, oh mygosh, your mom is amazing. We're
about then. It was. Itwas really fun being themselves right, yeah,
it'll fallow. Thing about walls whenthey come down, yeah, unintended,
when they come down, the worldis a better place. It's seriously,
is it's your defense. Is can'talways be up so high that you're
missing out on living life. Youknow, I've gone through it. I'm
sure I can't speak for you,but I'm sure a lot of listeners have
gone through that. Were just yousit back at the end of the day
and like, Oh my God,it's just I wasted a whole day rowing
about something that hasn't even happened becauseI'm so in fear. When your fear
stops you from living your life,and I take my own advice, believe
me, then you have to stepout of your fear and push through it
to find the happiness, because there'salways, and this is another pun,
there's always a rainbow. Always arainbow, and it's one of the best
things about the gay community that Iidentify with is that I'm happy when I'm
around people that make me feel likeI'm normal, and with the gay community
and all of you, I feellike I'm normal there and I don't I
don't need to pretend, I don'tneed to explain. I could put on
my heels and walk in a bikiniif I want to, even at age
fifty eight. You know, peoplelove me for that. But I feel
like if you belong to some place, you're going to be welcomed. Do
Do you think that as well?Yeah, I mean I do. I
think the Lgbtq community is very welcoming. I think we can do better to
welcome and make, I guess,protect some of the members of the community
who are even more marginalized than others. So I definitely think we can do
better to be more welcoming and moreprotective of the community. But yes,
what can we do? What canwe do collectively? If you want to
think about that, we could talkabout it another time. I'm really serious
about that, though, because there'spart of me that has missed, you
know, just really being out therewith people since the pandemic and really helping
and making a difference, and Ifeel like when I'm seeing in public and
someone runs up and gives me ahug, it makes me feel like my
my whole spirits out there. You'refeeling me, you're vising me, you're
running to me and hugging me becauseI let you be comfortable with me,
whereas some people take a friends tothat. I just want to know if
there's anything that you need for meand I want you to think about it.
You don't have to answer it rightnow, but I am here for
it and I definitely know Ryan wouldhelp me out setting it up as well.
I really I mean that too.I do. I mean I literally
walked and marched. Pride was atwo thousand and nine. Yeah, two
thousand and nine. I was withChristine Quinn, but I did the whole
eleven miles. I started started ona fifty five street. To think it's
fifty five. Ended up on eighth. Yeah, and Hudson, oh my
gosh, I crashed for like threedays because I didn't still letts, just
like my friend told me. Sohe marched with me too, though he
did not have to settles on,but he might had kinkaboots on for a
mile or two. But it wasliterally the time of my life because all
the politicians were coming in pulling out. There's pictures with myself, with Bloomberg
and Patterson, who, when hehad a Standin, I said he says
I'm getting back in the SUV mystand it's going to join you and I
go. You do know we're notblind, right, we can see that
it's not you, and he's like, Oh, you're funny. I go
and you're still getting in the SUV. Okay, no, nice guy though,
nicest could be. That's just mysense of humor. It doesn't five
with everybody, but I thought oneof my favorite pride memories is just like
embracing everybody. It was a sweaty, hot day and I was not given
up. I was marching until itwas over and I couldn't have been more
proud to be amongst everyone that waslining the streets just to watch, you
know, and the master of ceremonies, and it was just those moments to
me, are the most infectious.Now I can turn into like a lot
more floats and there's people instead ofmarching or writing. Floats all right,
but marching is something to take pridein and I hope and pray that you'll
always be proud of who you areand I hope you'll come back and see
us really soon here. I loveit because I definitely work and I'm so
happy we're connected now on social mediaas well. Anything I I don't forget
to reach out to me. Okay, absolutely. Well, the only thing
I could I could ask of peopleis find people on social media who maybe
don't have as big of a platform, or maybe they have a bigger platform
than you, but they have eithersomething they're trying to teach the world or
give the world and amplify them.Share their content to your story and talk
about it with your friends, orshare it with your friends people like Addison
Rose Vincent from break the binary orskylar builer with pink manaray on instagram.
Follow their stuff, help them amplifytheir voices. Will send it right,
because I really do want to haveI would a lobsolutely. You'll see it
all these restoring and I'll tag youin it. And this is this is
the time to do this. Everybodyshould stand up and embrace one another and
just be so happy that we livein a time as we do and it's
kind only get better. Right,right, people, you're going to change
the world. Okay, now youwatch it. Well, I'm gonna thank
I am you're welcome. Thank youfor having me today. Many blessings to
you, and thank you for beinghere as well, and for those of
you who have been listening, thisis Le by chambers. Please follow him
and look at pride and that's aninstagram and the rest of his links are
on linked tree and you could justgo right there and find any information that
you need. So take pride andwho you are. We are so proud
of all of you and thank youso much for being a voice out there
for all of us. Thanks leaving. Thank you by honey. Bye.
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